Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 581210)

i swear lucifer did this for a laugh still

Originally Posted by mr. goth glam (Post 581209)

I'm still waiting for someone to have enough courage to speak out against Post-Punk-Country-Hiphop-No Wave.

I mean, what the hell's that crap even about?

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 581136)

1. No wave lyrics explored deep philosophical issues, unlike the tripe that predominated in post-punk at the time. I'll take a monologue about confrontation over M. Smith's ruses about wherever the obligatory ******s were.

3. There's no such thing as bad no wave music. Just varying shades of nihilism.

4. More imagination was poured into records produced during the no-wave movement than the rest of the lot of the seventies and eighties.

5. Nowhere else in music history has there been as diverse a smattering of artists belonging to the same movement as there were with no-wave: James Chance & the Contortions , Suicide , Glenn Branca , the Bush Tetras , DNA , Teenage Jesus and the Jerks , Mars , Swan , etc...

I'd take this any day over Joy Division / Nick Cave / the Fall / what-fucking-ever:

Originally Posted by czukoman20 (Post 581234)

as long as death metal ain involved .. i think it can be a genre

Originally Posted by czukoman20 (Post 581227)

Bach... < Its kills me

Originally Posted by czukoman20 (Post 581240)

Nickelback has 1 good song.. and it was overplayed... soo i bring on the hate with them ):

Originally Posted by czukoman20 (Post 581237)

Negative

Originally Posted by czukoman20 (Post 581228)

Eh.. its an ok review.. and an ok album

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 581146)

I don't see post punk as a genre but as an era influenced directly or indirectly by punk of which I would consider no wave a part of.

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 581325)

I was going to title it "Five Reasons No Wave Pisses over the Rest of Post-Punk" but it didn't carry the same bravado. I'm basically trying to highlight the differences between the New York and English post-punk (which I agree is more of an era than a genre). I'm just here to explain that contrary to what you (and many others) believe, American punk, does in fact, not suck.

It'd be hypocritical of me to say post-punk sucked; some of my favorite albums exist within this era. I personally believe, however, that the New York no-wave movement was superior to everything else during that era.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 581346)

It pains me to say this because I'm a huge Swans fan but I have to admit UK post-punk by and large kicked US post-punk's ass. Killing Joke, Joy Division, Bauhaus, Gang of Four, The Cure, The Smiths, Siouxsie and the Banshees, PiL, there's really no contest.

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 581359)

Which is a perfectly non-incendiary opinion. Unfortunately also one that most of our kinsmen believe (at least the ones that have heard of post-punk). I'm an enormous fan of Wire and a few other British bands of the era, but in truth, I'm fatigued by the sheer number of people (and musicians) who labor to pay homage to Joy Division, The Smiths, The Cure, etc. and completely ignore the wealth of great music the no-wave movement has produced.