Oh the diversity? (lead singer, quote)

Yukon Cornelius · 01-15-2009, 08:25 PM

See its like this... Lets say you thought i was awesome but you had never actually met me in person. And lets say you were a die hard fan of mine. Now lets say you finally after all these years of trying were going to get to meet me and you got to. You soon realized that the best moment to you at the time was shot down by someone you had idolized for so long. I have heard the lead singer of this band is not a nice person. That to me says alot. I understand that they get pestered alot but its the fate that they have chosen. So mainstream musicains wether they like it or not are puppets of the music industry and everything that surrounds it. This means that they (since we are the ones that make them money) should at least aknowlege there fans somewhat. My reasoning is as stands why would you support an a#$h%^&? makes no sense to me. If its good than its good?? Id rather let you say that... There are a bunch of good things that i dont like... aka tim tebow.... case and point

~~The Unfan~~ · 01-15-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

There are a bunch of good things that i dont like

You should probably fix that.

Yukon Cornelius · 01-15-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

What? If the music is good its good. If they were nazis who supported the killing of everyone different than them it would not change the musical quality.

So if Osama bin laden came out with a hot new hit single you would listen and because it was good?? Can you say tool??

Or do you simply think that good is always good cause if so i think that they have a pill for that.

gunnels · 01-15-2009, 09:46 PM

I think Charles Manson was a great songwriter.

~~The Unfan~~ · 01-16-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

So if Osama bin laden came out with a hot new hit single you would listen and because it was good?? Can you say tool??

Or do you simply think that good is always good cause if so i think that they have a pill for that.

So you're saying you don't know how to seperate song from musician? Its like saying someone who is good at brick laying all of a sudden becomes a bad brick layer once he acts like a douche.

Yukon Cornelius · 01-16-2009, 03:17 PM

Bricks >>?? No im saying i dont support jerks... Is it that hard to understand?? Need we dig deeper??? Im so ready for you to analyze this again.. Please will you for me

~~The Unfan~~ · 01-16-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

Bricks >>?? No im saying i dont support jerks... Is it that hard to understand?? Need we dig deeper??? Im so ready for you to analyze this again.. Please will you for me

But being a jerk doesn't make you bad at your trade. For instance I think Mike Portnoy is a twat from personal experience. However, I still think LTE's 2 albums are fantastic, and I wouldn't mind shelling out money to see Dream Theater. His behavior has no effect on his work, nor on his talent.

scottsy · 01-17-2009, 01:41 AM

I get what's being said about someone being a jerk not affecting their talent / ability, even the quality of their work...

But we as human beings tend to have this sticky little things called emotional attachments and investments - sometimes we irrationally form these attachments with idols and assign characteristics to them we experience through their art (or their music, in this case)

... when we find out that some of these perceived characteristics aren't true, we tend to be repulsed by everything about them, in a reaction commonly felt as betrayal, which repulses us against everything that person does, even their music, regardless of its inherent quality...

Yukon Cornelius · 01-17-2009, 10:36 AM

^^ Well put

scottsy · 01-17-2009, 11:08 PM

Well, thank you very much! :-)

01-15-2009, 08:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Yukon Cornelius Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 625	See its like this... Lets say you thought i was awesome but you had never actually met me in person. And lets say you were a die hard fan of mine. Now lets say you finally after all these years of trying were going to get to meet me and you got to. You soon realized that the best moment to you at the time was shot down by someone you had idolized for so long. I have heard the lead singer of this band is not a nice person. That to me says alot. I understand that they get pestered alot but its the fate that they have chosen. So mainstream musicains wether they like it or not are puppets of the music industry and everything that surrounds it. This means that they (since we are the ones that make them money) should at least aknowlege there fans somewhat. My reasoning is as stands why would you support an a#$h%^&? makes no sense to me. If its good than its good?? Id rather let you say that... There are a bunch of good things that i dont like... aka tim tebow.... case and point __________________ Attempting to find a cure for Stupid...

01-16-2009, 03:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
Yukon Cornelius Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 625	Bricks >>?? No im saying i dont support jerks... Is it that hard to understand?? Need we dig deeper??? Im so ready for you to analyze this again.. Please will you for me __________________ Attempting to find a cure for Stupid...

01-17-2009, 01:41 AM	#18 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	I get what's being said about someone being a jerk not affecting their talent / ability, even the quality of their work... But we as human beings tend to have this sticky little things called emotional attachments and investments - sometimes we irrationally form these attachments with idols and assign characteristics to them we experience through their art (or their music, in this case) ... when we find out that some of these perceived characteristics aren't true, we tend to be repulsed by everything about them, in a reaction commonly felt as betrayal, which repulses us against everything that person does, even their music, regardless of its inherent quality... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

01-17-2009, 10:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
Yukon Cornelius Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 625	^^ Well put __________________ Attempting to find a cure for Stupid...

01-17-2009, 11:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	Well, thank you very much! :-) __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.