Music Banter Hall of Fame: Induction Thread 2 (lyrics, hip-hop, album)

[Brad Stengel]

RADIOHEAD - YES
Although I don't care for anything after Amnesiac (seriously, none of it even remotely approaches their earlier work) The Bends, OK Computer, and Kid A are all great albums, and the 180 degree stylistic change on all of them is one of the trademarks of a great band.

THE KINKS - YES
Although I only own "Village Green", it's a fantastic album, the only bad song on it being that one about trains. The great thing about it is that it's one of those albums that the first time you're listening to it and realize how great each song is, you begin to look forward to what sort of amazing melodies they're going to put in the next verse and chorus, and each song delivers. And beyond that, the lyrics are goofy yet very clever and well written, which is how every song should be written.

THE BEACH BOYS - YES

I honestly can't believe people are neglecting everything they did besides Pet Sounds. Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys are responsible for:
-The first band to combine instrumental surf rock with a cappella vocals like that crappy Four Freshmen band, thusly responsible for Jan & Dean, and a bunch of arguably awful early 60's bands that I really enjoy.
-One of the first rock bands to experiment with very complex musical arrangements, even before Pet Sounds. Frank Zappa was saying once how important 'Little Deuce Coupe' was because it used some unexpected chord. I don't know the music theory lingo very well, so I can't explain well. But I assure you it was groundbreaking.
-The first band to demand and win complete creative control, with Brian Wilson producing the albums instead of someone hired by the record company.
And lest we forget "Smile"? I hear echoes of "Smile" more in modern music than I do "Sgt. Peppers", and even "Pet Sounds". Just because It wasnt properly released doesn't mean it didn't have an impact. Take the Olivia Tremor Control's "Black Foliage" album. Impossible without the innovation of "Smile".


PUBLIC ENEMY - N/A

Whenever I vote on these, it makes me feel guilty about not appreciating rap. omeday, hopefully.

[Sneer]

Public Enemy not getting in is fucking stupid.

[jackhammer]

It seems that they are not getting in because so many people have not even heard them which I find perplexing. Even if you don't like Rap, their importance is known and maybe if people heard them then they may end up liking Rap. I'm not saying put them in just because they are the token Rap band but I would have hoped that polls like this would at least encourage people to listen to them

[Sneer]

They made 3 exceptional albums and another one of top quality, are ridiculously influential in the realms of hip hop and IMO, piss all over the Beach Boys. A travesty

Originally Posted by FaSho

NWA or Aesop would both be inducted I assume. Bigger fanbase on the forum.

Neither will be. If PE, ATCQ or Wu Tang arent then there is not a chance in hell of Aesop or NWA getting in.

[Molecules]

Originally Posted by jackhammer

It seems that they are not getting in because so many people have not even heard them which I find perplexing. Even if you don't like Rap, their importance is known and maybe if people heard them then they may end up liking Rap. I'm not saying put thet lm in just because they are the token Rap band but I would have hoped that polls like this would aeast encourage people to listen to them

you would hope so, I am still hoping good old white guilt will come in to play and make them vote yes on Public Enemy anyway. what a bunch of racists bastards

[Alfred]

I'm gonna say yes for Public Enemy, because I listened to "It Takes A Nation Of Millions..." and it was pretty tight. As PMO said somewhere, the beats are sick.

[TheCellarTapes]

Originally Posted by jackhammer

It seems that they are not getting in because so many people have not even heard them which I find perplexing. Even if you don't like Rap, their importance is known and maybe if people heard them then they may end up liking Rap. I'm not saying put them in just because they are the token Rap band but I would have hoped that polls like this would at least encourage people to listen to them

No I dont think that is the case at all, well not for me anyways, I have heard of Public Enemy and would know one of their songs if it was played, but I dont feel qualified enough (if such a point could be reached) to write an explained reason for my answer like I have for the other 3 bands.

I'm not a complete musical snob that I would denounce Rap as unimportant, because I realise it was and still is. However like Metal and Acid House to name but a couple, Rap is just another genre that has passed me by over the years where I would now only know the basics, there's only so much listening one can do in my book.

[ProggyMan]

Originally Posted by jackhammer

It seems that they are not getting in because so many people have not even heard them which I find perplexing. Even if you don't like Rap, their importance is known and maybe if people heard them then they may end up liking Rap. I'm not saying put them in just because they are the token Rap band but I would have hoped that polls like this would at least encourage people to listen to them

according to FaSho they didn't do anything besides 'spawn a bunch of other socially conscious bores'.

[FaSho]

I understand the influence and blah blah blah, but when it comes down to it, they're not very good IMO, and I don't much enjoy the hip-hop acts today that mimic them.

[Sneer]

I just cannot comprehend how somebody could listen to It Takes a Nation... and 'not find it very good'