Vinyl making a HUGE comeback: (OST, techno, cds, albums)

joyboyo53 · 03-12-2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss

Well, having sifted through the half a dozen or so threads dedicated to this topic, I still don't understand what the deal is with this format, especially with its recent resurgence. Apparently the sound isn't better (than CDs or high quality mp3s), it's far less convenient to listen to, much more delicate and prone to corruption and as far as I can tell, more expensive...I get that it holds a lot of nostalgic value for older folk but what's up with the young peeps drooling over it lately? I didn't really grow up in an environment that payed much attention to music but my sister did have some vinyl records and I can't say they hold any particular nostalgic value for me. I was a child of tapes but I can't see myself going back to that any time soon...:\

So, all things considered, it all reeks of an annoying indier-than-thou fad...*shrugs*

i think alot of it has to do with your closing statement. i can say however that listening to vinyl encourages people to listen to an entire album through (which encourages artist to make albums that way) and that is something i prefer. it is also a much more interesting form of collectable, as the art on the album cover is put more into focus. you are right that modern high quality mp3s and cds do have better sound quality, but i would say 1/2 my mp3s are not of that quality. i think people just sometimes like to take a step backwards and recognize the achievements of the past. some things are hard to explain, like why people would pay loads of money to stay in an expensive historical hotel when they could just goto the nearest sheraton where it will have the better ac, food, and beds?

7gaugejames · 03-12-2009, 10:25 AM

I think the things about vinyl that keep it here are,
1) the artwork
2) inserts! Sleeve art!
3) the process, getting the vinyl out, checking for scratches in the light, setting it on the player, getting the stylus/ needle at the ready, watching the auto action of the dropping of the licorice pizza and the magical way the arm moves to the edge of the album.
4) and believe it or not, the static and extra noise that you hear first, the white noise before it is replaced with stereophonic sound. Brilliant.
Note: Adidass , maybe your shrug could be replaced by a knowing nod if the right person had the record collection and the listening gear. Superior sound is good, don't get me wrong, I'm a Steely Dan man from way back. Sound counts, for alot. However you ever try scratching or dj mixing a c.d.?

adidasss · 03-12-2009, 10:28 AM

^^ No, I'm not into scratching or dj-ing, but I'd guess neither are 90% of the people that buy vinyl nowadays.

@jgd: So should we expect a big comeback of tapes? They also have crappier sound, wear easily and make it really difficult for you to skip tracks. *unsure*

LoathsomePete · 03-12-2009, 10:38 AM

I started to collect vinyl back in 2004 and had a pretty respectable small collection but I sold them all in 2007 when I thought I was moving to the U.K. Since then I have noticed the trend of collecting it starting to rise, especially with newer artists, and big retail chains like Best Buy has started selling turntables and records. I really love the analog sound, it's a lot more full and round, it almost sounds like you're actually in the recording studio with the band. However they do take up a lot of space and are not portable playable. Still if you've got the space and want the sound then more power to you.

7gaugejames · 03-12-2009, 10:40 AM

No doubt, I never have, I don't even know why I put that in, I'm a poser.

Cassettes should be outlawed,

FF and REV su(k

7gaugejames · 03-12-2009, 10:45 AM

Yes! I have this record of Muddy Waters and you can hear the sound of his chair scooting across the top of the linoleum, it's f'n brilliant.

The C.d. had it digitally removed, I was looking for more backround noise( can you believe it) on C.D.... silly local.

mr. goth glam · 03-12-2009, 11:25 AM

I only have one vinyl record, so my emotional stock in this is pretty minimal.

I've always wanted to collect a little though.

Roygbiv · 03-12-2009, 11:27 AM

I bought my own automatic record player less than a year ago, and I'm only buying albums that were recorded on analog or were meant to be played on Vinyl only (I'm looking at you, Steve Albini). So i'm part of that crowd, whether I like it or not.

adidasss · 03-12-2009, 12:26 PM

I don't understand the difference between analog and digital sound, can someone explain it to me?

Roygbiv · 03-12-2009, 12:42 PM

Analog recorded on tape and mixed via multi tracking, whereas Digital is not recorded on tape and it's mixed on things like Pro Tools.

I think.

03-12-2009, 10:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
7gaugejames Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Imperial Beach Ca. Posts: 101	Vinyl; as follows, I think the things about vinyl that keep it here are, 1) the artwork 2) inserts! Sleeve art! 3) the process, getting the vinyl out, checking for scratches in the light, setting it on the player, getting the stylus/ needle at the ready, watching the auto action of the dropping of the licorice pizza and the magical way the arm moves to the edge of the album. 4) and believe it or not, the static and extra noise that you hear first, the white noise before it is replaced with stereophonic sound. Brilliant. Note: Adidass , maybe your shrug could be replaced by a knowing nod if the right person had the record collection and the listening gear. Superior sound is good, don't get me wrong, I'm a Steely Dan man from way back. Sound counts, for alot. However you ever try scratching or dj mixing a c.d.? __________________ I don't care who you are, Gunslinger, shmunslinger, everyone needs a good purse.

03-12-2009, 10:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	^^ No, I'm not into scratching or dj-ing, but I'd guess neither are 90% of the people that buy vinyl nowadays. @jgd: So should we expect a big comeback of tapes? They also have crappier sound, wear easily and make it really difficult for you to skip tracks. unsure __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

03-12-2009, 10:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	I started to collect vinyl back in 2004 and had a pretty respectable small collection but I sold them all in 2007 when I thought I was moving to the U.K. Since then I have noticed the trend of collecting it starting to rise, especially with newer artists, and big retail chains like Best Buy has started selling turntables and records. I really love the analog sound, it's a lot more full and round, it almost sounds like you're actually in the recording studio with the band. However they do take up a lot of space and are not portable playable. Still if you've got the space and want the sound then more power to you. __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

03-12-2009, 10:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
7gaugejames Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Imperial Beach Ca. Posts: 101	Scratching; as follows, No doubt, I never have, I don't even know why I put that in, I'm a poser. Cassettes should be outlawed, FF and REV su(k __________________ I don't care who you are, Gunslinger, shmunslinger, everyone needs a good purse.

03-12-2009, 10:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
7gaugejames Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Imperial Beach Ca. Posts: 101	Nobody's Perfect; as follows, Yes! I have this record of Muddy Waters and you can hear the sound of his chair scooting across the top of the linoleum, it's f'n brilliant. The C.d. had it digitally removed, I was looking for more backround noise( can you believe it) on C.D.... silly local. __________________ I don't care who you are, Gunslinger, shmunslinger, everyone needs a good purse.

03-12-2009, 11:25 AM	#17 (permalink)
mr. goth glam Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Waverly, VA. Posts: 406	I only have one vinyl record, so my emotional stock in this is pretty minimal. I've always wanted to collect a little though. __________________

03-12-2009, 11:27 AM	#18 (permalink)
Roygbiv marquee moon Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 759	I bought my own automatic record player less than a year ago, and I'm only buying albums that were recorded on analog or were meant to be played on Vinyl only (I'm looking at you, Steve Albini). So i'm part of that crowd, whether I like it or not. __________________ Roygbiv's Review Revue LATEST REVIEW SILENT SHOUT BY THE KNIFE

03-12-2009, 12:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	I don't understand the difference between analog and digital sound, can someone explain it to me? __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

03-12-2009, 12:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
Roygbiv marquee moon Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 759	Analog recorded on tape and mixed via multi tracking, whereas Digital is not recorded on tape and it's mixed on things like Pro Tools. I think. __________________ Roygbiv's Review Revue LATEST REVIEW SILENT SHOUT BY THE KNIFE