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Old 11-23-2008, 04:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lol, that's ok, I don't wanna listened to many Christina songs.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You decide. Christina sounds like she just wants to make some money and has no desire to put out passable music.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why are you comparing songs and motives etc? Lol.
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Why are you comparing songs and motives etc? Lol.
Because there's more to singing than just vocal range and technical ability. Arguing this is like trying to argue with Dream Theater and Satriani fans...
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Or Radiohead fans
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Pretty funny stuff. Why would anyone take Rolling Stone's list seriously when its made up of vocalists who are known (name-wise atleast), to almost everyone who subscribes to that magazine in the first place? Its all self-gratifying BS akin to the act of masterbation.

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1. Thom might get on some top 100 list of singers somewhere depending on the criteria involved, but I don't think it really works here considering the audience that RS usually caters to. He's not abysmal vocally, but neither is he everyone's cup of tea. I suppose he was included for sake of acknowledging the current British music scene.

2. The best way to fight a fanboy is to give them an actual example of an artist who is superior to their established idol. If they continue to bitch afterwards, then just ignore them.

3. Mike Patton's acclaimed "versatility" as a vocalist is a bit too hyped for its own good. What about Devin Townsend, Varg Vikernes, Daniel Gildenlow, Mikael Akerfeldt, Darroh Sudderth, and countless other damned-good singers who have done impressive work of their own?
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3. Mike Patton's acclaimed "versatility" as a vocalist is a bit too hyped for its own good. What about Devin Townsend, Varg Vikernes, Daniel Gildenlow, Mikael Akerfeldt, Darroh Sudderth, and countless other damned-good singers who have done impressive work of their own?
No one's saying that they shouldn't get credit in their own right. What's special about Patton is that he was so well-accomplished at many vocal stylings, such as growls, crooning, screaming, and rapping. He brought so many elements of different genres into his work. Is he overhyped? Well, sure. But it's immature to disregard him completely and his contribution to music.

Oh, and for the record, don't take me as a fanboy. I'll be the first to admit: Mike Patton is a horrible songwriter. The only good albums he's made are when he aligned himself with great musicians. Just look at Faith No More's post-Martin output. It's bloody awful.
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No one's saying that they shouldn't get credit in their own right. What's special about Patton is that he was so well-accomplished at many vocal stylings, such as growls, crooning, screaming, and rapping. He brought so many elements of different genres into his work. Is he overhyped? Well, sure. But it's immature to disregard him completely and his contribution to music.

Oh, and for the record, don't take me as a fanboy. I'll be the first to admit: Mike Patton is a horrible songwriter. The only good albums he's made are when he aligned himself with great musicians. Just look at Faith No More's post-Martin output. It's bloody awful.
I know quite well how accomplished he is, especially in regards to his various collaborations (I've always enjoyed Tomahawk and a good deal of the stuff he did with Zorn). Disregarding him is almost as idiotic as worshipping him IMO.

Also, I've never listened to FNM's stuff post-Angel Dust, but I'll take your word for it.

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Also, I've never listened to FNM's stuff post-Angel Dust, but I'll take your word for it.
It's almost as bad as their pre-The Real Thing stuff.
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I know quite well how accomplished he is, especially in regards to his various collaborations (I've always enjoyed Tomahawk and a good deal of the stuff he did with Zorn). Disregarding him is almost as idiotic as worshipping him IMO.

Also, I've never listened to FNM's stuff post-Angel Dust, but I'll take your word for it.
Please, for the love of Pete, don't take his word for it, give both those albums a chance! Angel Dust is my favorite FNM album but King for a Day is their second best, IMO. It's not as cohesive as Angel Dust but it's still very good. And Album of the Year, though admittedly not that strong of an album, has enough good songs on it that it's worth a listen. In fact a couple of the better songs like "Stripsearch" and "She Loves Me Not" rank up there with my favorite FNM songs.

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