Gangster Rap (lyrics, metal, rap, rock, cds)

FaSho · 11-12-2008, 03:17 PM

You're clearly not a Coheed and Cambria fan then.

Also, 1000 post bitchezzzz

dac · 11-12-2008, 03:35 PM

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You're clearly not a Coheed and Cambria fan then.

No, not really. Congrats on the posts though.

FaSho · 11-12-2008, 03:59 PM

Thanks.
Coheed can make rape and brutal killing melodic and interesting, and afte rlistening to them I'm not going to go rape someone, so what's the harm?

dac · 11-12-2008, 06:01 PM

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Thanks.
Coheed can make rape and brutal killing melodic and interesting, and afte rlistening to them I'm not going to go rape someone, so what's the harm?

Well I used to listen to Coheed back in like 9th grade before I had a brain so I'll have to revisit them to see what you're talking about, but the thing is, they do it in a way that doesn't promote it, it doesn't glorify it. I'd be willing to bet that they use a lot of i figuratively also, whereas rap is quite literal with its meanings. I'll get back to you on the Coheed situation though.

FaSho · 11-12-2008, 06:19 PM

I understand where your coming from, but can you think of a specific example? Not to mention a lot of darker metal does the same thing.

Astronomer · 11-12-2008, 09:19 PM

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Maybe they're just passionate about violence. I would rather them sing about what their passionate about then what people want them to sing about.

I'm sorry, but if somebody was singing passionately about rape or child molestation and glorifying the act I would have no respect for them or their music. And thus would not enjoy the music, at all. A lot of music to me is about meaning, and regardless of their musical talent I could not get into music thats meaning was rape or pedophilia.

dac · 11-12-2008, 09:46 PM

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I'm sorry, but if somebody was singing passionately about rape or child molestation and glorifying the act I would have no respect for them or their music. And thus would not enjoy the music, at all. A lot of music to me is about meaning, and regardless of their musical talent I could not get into music thats meaning was rape or pedophilia.

QFT

PartisanRanger · 11-14-2008, 01:01 AM

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Songs about raping or brutally killing people (in a non metaphorical sense) are not good, period.

What a joke. Hell, if you're going to tie your enjoyment of music to the moral value of the lyrics you might as well stay away from rap, metal, or rock and roll in general. You're like those nuts in the States that burned Iron Maiden albums because of the "satanic content" of The Number of the Beast.

Astronomer · 11-14-2008, 01:24 AM

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What a joke. Hell, if you're going to tie your enjoyment of music to the moral value of the lyrics you might as well stay away from rap, metal, or rock and roll in general. You're like those nuts in the States that burned Iron Maiden albums because of the "satanic content" of The Number of the Beast.

I listen to metal and rock and roll in general and have never come across a song that is about violently raping someone or killing someone in a way that is enough for me to stop listening to it. So you can't say that all rock songs are satanic, evil, and violent. I'm definitely not like those "nuts" that burned Iron Maiden CDs or whatever, in fact I love a bit of controversy in music. But I seriously could not take someone's music seriously if they were outrightly singing about raping somebody or brutally murdering somebody and glamorizing it as a heroic lifestyle. Sure, a lot of stuff I listen to might have challenging moral value in the lyrics but none of it glamorizes truly immoral lifestyles.

And to go back on topic I think that is my main problem with a lot of gangster rap - it simply glamorizes crime culture, violence, and abuse towards women and makes these kinds of things heroic actions.

dac · 11-14-2008, 02:06 AM

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I listen to metal and rock and roll in general and have never come across a song that is about violently raping someone or killing someone in a way that is enough for me to stop listening to it. So you can't say that all rock songs are satanic, evil, and violent. I'm definitely not like those "nuts" that burned Iron Maiden CDs or whatever, in fact I love a bit of controversy in music. But I seriously could not take someone's music seriously if they were outrightly singing about raping somebody or brutally murdering somebody and glamorizing it as a heroic lifestyle. Sure, a lot of stuff I listen to might have challenging moral value in the lyrics but none of it glamorizes truly immoral lifestyles.

And to go back on topic I think that is my main problem with a lot of gangster rap - it simply glamorizes crime culture, violence, and abuse towards women and makes these kinds of things heroic actions.

Amen, lateralus

And further, the songs in question take the easy route. Anyone can talk about killing people and make sexist slurs.... Use some figurative language, be creative, emotional, do something productive. Maybe then I'll listen to you. And for the record, I think Number of the Beast is a boring song.