Gangster Rap (dancing, dance, rap, albums, effect)

Surell · 11-14-2008, 02:23 AM

Dac needs some Nas and MF Doom if he's gonna complain about figurative language.

And I recall someone on the forum (no names, he's mah dawg) saying they didn't respect South Park Mexican because he molested little girls. But he said he still liked his music. And I chuckled.

Gangster rap is fine to me. I haven't come across any song about rape or violently killing someone so far. Maybe "I shot the little suckah" comes in every now and then, but rape? Not happenin.

Astronomer · 11-14-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Surell

Gangster rap is fine to me. I haven't come across any song about rape or violently killing someone so far. Maybe "I shot the little suckah" comes in every now and then, but rape? Not happenin.

When we were discussing it earlier I don't think we were referring to rape directly but more the way they refer to women in a way that could provoke derogatory actions. (i.e. that women are just "bitches" and "hoes". A hoe implies that she is someone you can take advantage of sexually. etc.)

Anyway, gangster rap just doesn't do it for me. I just don't think it's a very creative genre.

kthedrummer · 11-14-2008, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Surell

Dac needs some Nas and MF Doom if he's gonna complain about figurative language.

And I recall someone on the forum (no names, he's mah dawg) saying they didn't respect South Park Mexican because he molested little girls. But he said he still liked his music. And I chuckled.

Gangster rap is fine to me. I haven't come across any song about rape or violently killing someone so far. Maybe "I shot the little suckah" comes in every now and then, but rape? Not happenin.

check Season of the Sickness by Brotha Lynch Hung

~~Gareth Brown~~ · 11-14-2008, 04:48 PM

Who gives a **** if their glamourising rape or murder, it doesn't mean people will go out and do it. Also, i find rappers talking about killing ho's and what not far more engaging than hero MF DOOMS nonsensical bull**** although i am a DOOM fan.

FaSho · 11-14-2008, 04:50 PM

Rap/Sing about what your passionate about is all I ask. If you don't like it you don't have to listen it and ruin it for the rest of us.
/thread

Surell · 11-14-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kthedrummer

check Season of the Sickness by Brotha Lynch Hung

I take it there's rape and violent killing?

And I think Death/Black Metal would probably be more graphic about things like what the past arguments were about.

Lateralus: Not all women are hoes. Just the hoes are hoes.

PartisanRanger · 11-14-2008, 07:24 PM

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I listen to metal and rock and roll in general and have never come across a song that is about violently raping someone or killing someone in a way that is enough for me to stop listening to it. So you can't say that all rock songs are satanic, evil, and violent. I'm definitely not like those "nuts" that burned Iron Maiden CDs or whatever, in fact I love a bit of controversy in music. But I seriously could not take someone's music seriously if they were outrightly singing about raping somebody or brutally murdering somebody and glamorizing it as a heroic lifestyle. Sure, a lot of stuff I listen to might have challenging moral value in the lyrics but none of it glamorizes truly immoral lifestyles.

And to go back on topic I think that is my main problem with a lot of gangster rap - it simply glamorizes crime culture, violence, and abuse towards women and makes these kinds of things heroic actions.

It's okay if you don't like music because of immoral content. What I took issue with was Dac's assertion that music cannot be good if the lyrics go to violent or otherwise reprehensible extremes. That's ridiculous. I personally dig NWA's "**** Tha Police" despite the fact that Ice Cube talks about starting a bloodbath of cops.

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And further, the songs in question take the easy route. Anyone can talk about killing people and make sexist slurs.... Use some figurative language, be creative, emotional, do something productive. Maybe then I'll listen to you. And for the record, I think Number of the Beast is a boring song.

That's a different subject entirely. The problem with gangsta rap these days isn't the brutal lyrics, but the general lack of creativity and innovation.

FaSho · 11-15-2008, 09:35 PM

Freedom of Speech bitchez, they can rap about whatever they want. My problem is when they rap about rape or whatever because they think it makes them popular. What kind of ****ed up world do we live in where rape is cool?

simplephysics · 11-15-2008, 09:54 PM

Well, I figure it's more about telling a story than trying to make it seem 'cool'.

FaSho · 11-16-2008, 09:33 AM

Then it's completley fine with me if they are "just telling a story".

11-14-2008, 04:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
~~Gareth Brown~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 295	Who gives a ** if their glamourising rape or murder, it doesn't mean people will go out and do it. Also, i find rappers talking about killing ho's and what not far more engaging than hero MF DOOMS nonsensical bull** although i am a DOOM fan.