Is it possible to objectively judge music? (country, rock, favorite bands)

jackhammer · 09-26-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

They're albums that struck a chord with people at the right time in the right place both musically & socially ,and are fondly remembered for doing so , that's why they are regarded so highly. They're not regarded highly because someone looked at them and decided they were the finest example of music ever made and then decreeing it to everybody.

Unfortunately this is what many critics and major magazines do. Now if someone has a particularly persuasive line in opinion, I will listen to an album but music is an art form no matter how you dress it up and people have many differing opinions. none of them are right.

Is this Art:

It's only opinions in regard to it's asthetic beauty. No right or wrong.

**Janszoon** · 09-26-2008, 03:18 PM

Ah, you got to love Damien Hirst.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-26-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Unfortunately this is what many critics and major magazines do.

And thats why I don't read them anymore

Piss Me Off · 09-26-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Ah, you got to love Damien Hirst.

I don't

jackhammer · 09-26-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

And thats why I don't read them anymore

I think most of us who genuinely love music take those narrow minded blinkered fools as a joke anyhow.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-26-2008, 03:24 PM

I think there's a lot to be said for music journalism when it comes to articles & interviews. I've just never had any time for reviews.

If I write one I use it as a platform to say why I like it or dislike it. Looking at it in an objective way is not something I have ever even given any thought to. I mean why would I?
To do that i'd have to approach it from a distance and thats not why I listen to music. I want to share how a piece of music has affected me , not to break it down into little components and lecture people.

Piss Me Off · 09-26-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I think most of us who genuinely love music take those narrow minded blinkered fools as a joke anyhow.

They're still obviously brilliant for getting into music and all the big artists, i mean if there was no NME i doubt i would be into The Smiths, but there comes i time when you should just follow your own tastes and not be spoonfed whatever is being hyped.

jackhammer · 09-26-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off

They're still obviously brilliant for getting into music and all the big artists, i mean if there was no NME i doubt i would be into The Smiths, but there comes i time when you should just follow your own tastes and not be spoonfed whatever is being hyped.

I understand what you are saying and on your musical journey, they can help but when you delve into music deeper you realise that most (not all) of them are actually stifling you.

anticipation · 09-26-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

you wreak of deconstructionism.

*reek

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

All you would need to do is set up criteria first one what would be up for judgment and how those scales would look. Its why academic papers generally start off with definitions of things, so as to allow the reader to know what your basing judgments on. So long as the criteria that serves as the basis for the judgment is standardized, there ought to be no problem with being able to judge things objectively.

wouldn't the definitions in themselves be subjective of those who define them? the standardization of someone's subjective opinion on what criteria to include and what to omit would not remove the fact that a living person made choices based on some sort of belief, whether knowingly or not.

**Janszoon** · 09-26-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off

I don't

B-b-but you have to.

09-26-2008, 03:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I think there's a lot to be said for music journalism when it comes to articles & interviews. I've just never had any time for reviews. If I write one I use it as a platform to say why I like it or dislike it. Looking at it in an objective way is not something I have ever even given any thought to. I mean why would I? To do that i'd have to approach it from a distance and thats not why I listen to music. I want to share how a piece of music has affected me , not to break it down into little components and lecture people. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-26-2008, 03:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	Ah, you got to love Damien Hirst.