Hall Of Fame: Induction Thread Number 1 (singer, hip-hop, pop, punk)

[Minstrel]

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

You're still not saying anything about his music. Your argument could apply to anyone that's released five albums, it's generic. Why not come up with some reasons that actually have something concrete behind them?

The requirements of the thread weren't to write an essay as justification on each artist. Do you have some sort of personal issue with me? There are people who simply said "No," and you're going on and on at me.

I've listened to all of his albums over the past decade-plus, going back to Heatmiser. I own a few of his albums and enjoy listening to them. I don't have any specific reasons why I don't think his music is good enough, I simply don't think it's good enough. Some artists I have a lot to say about, some artists I don't.

If you are dissatisfied with me saying "His music isn't good enough," try this on for size: Tough luck.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by Minstrel

The requirements of the thread weren't to write an essay as justification on each artist. Do you have some sort of personal issue with me? There are people who simply said "No," and you're going on and on at me.

I've listened to all of his albums over the past decade-plus, going back to Heatmiser. I own a few of his albums and enjoy listening to them. I don't have any specific reasons why I don't think his music is good enough, I simply don't think it's good enough. Some artists I have a lot to say about, some artists I don't.

If you are dissatisfied with me saying "His music isn't good enough," try this on for size: Tough luck.

My problem was more this: you originally said he didn't produce enough music and his music wasn't good enough given the length of his career. Which is fine but then you turned around and said yes to several artists with even shorter careers. Which is completely hypocritical. I don't really have a problem with you saying his music isn't good enough for your tastes but that's a completely different reason then the original one given.

[Minstrel]

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

My problem was more this: you originally said he didn't produce enough music and his music wasn't good enough given the length of his career. Which is fine but then you turned around and said yes to several artists with even shorter careers. Which is completely hypocritical.

I really can't even understand your complaint here. You correctly stated my position:

"he didn't produce enough music and his music wasn't good enough given the length of his career."

Yet you seem to be completely missing the bolded part.

There's nothing hypocritical. Those "'several artists" were good enough given the length of their careers.

I don't understand what the confusion here is. There are two components: length of career and quality of the music. If one is smaller, the other must be higher, in order to be worthy.

Led Zeppelin, Joy Division and Wu-Tang Clan (the bands you highlighted) had far superior music to Elliott Smith, in my opinion. Therefore, they could get away with similar or shorter career lengths.

What's hypocritical about that?