Guns N' Roses (Yes and Chinese Democracy, so don't make other threads on it.) (pop, album)

TheBig3 · 11-25-2008, 11:24 AM

I don't know if its been posted yet, but heres how the high baron of pop culture hears it...

Chuck Klosterman reviews Chinese Democracy | The A.V. Club

**Janszoon** · 11-25-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I don't know if its been posted yet, but heres how the high baron of pop culture hears it...

Chuck Klosterman reviews Chinese Democracy | The A.V. Club

That was a great review! I wouldn't rate the album nearly as highly as that guy did but I enjoyed his insight into it.

ins0mniac · 11-25-2008, 03:01 PM

"On the aforementioned "Sorry," Rose suddenly sings an otherwise innocuous line ("But I don't want to do it") in some bizarre, quasi-Transylvanian accent, and I cannot begin to speculate as to why. I mean, one has to assume Axl thought about all of these individual choices a minimum of a thousand times over the past 15 years. Somewhere in Los Angles, there's gotta be 400 hours of DAT tape with nothing on it except multiple versions of the "Sorry" vocal. So why is this the one we finally hear? What finally made him decide, "You know, I've weighed all my options and all their potential consequences, and I'm going with the Mexican vampire accent.""

It's so true bahahaha.
Great review, for the most part I agree. Axl did what he wanted to. He gave us an album that was as much of a continuation from The Illusion series as possible. While working on his own time. Many people don't agree with it obviously, but Axl knows his diehard fans are willing to wait if he's making music and he put together an outstanding creation even if parts of it are seemingly over-complex. If you're gonna hate on Axl for this album, as he would say, get in the ring.

My personal favorite tracks are "Better", "There Was A Time", and "Madagascar." With "Better" being quite possibly my favorite GnR song period.

TheBig3 · 11-25-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

That was a great review! I wouldn't rate the album nearly as highly as that guy did but I enjoyed his insight into it.

Whats more important than his rating is his reasoning for that rating.

Whether or not he gave an A or an F, why he did it matters most. There are people who would give it an "F" and no opinion, and when I accuse them of being cred-hungry jerk offs, everyone says their entitled to their opinion.

The thing is, this review says "these are the criteria, and this was how it was met" and by doing this, he doesn't pretend he's cosmic authority on everything.

Far too many people will slag this album to go with the flow. There will be a backlash, but few will say why they went in any direction.

Comus · 11-25-2008, 08:26 PM

Chinese failhattery sucked, title track is alright, but fair enough it's better than velvet revolver. So let's just pretend they all died after Use Your Illusion.

spark10036 · 11-26-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus

Chinese failhattery sucked, title track is alright, but fair enough it's better than velvet revolver. So let's just pretend they all died after Use Your Illusion.

ok.......?

Guybrush · 11-26-2008, 09:55 AM

Knockin on heaven's door? Come on, you don't claim a cover-song is your favourite of an artist. Besides, "Welcome to the Jungle" severly kicks knockin in the groin, over and over and over again.

TheBig3 · 11-26-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus

Chinese failhattery sucked, title track is alright, but fair enough it's better than velvet revolver. So let's just pretend they all died after Use Your Illusion.

The joke was terrible
The contribution was non-eistant
My time was wasted

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Originally Posted by toretorden

Knockin on heaven's door? Come on, you don't claim a cover-song is your favourite of an artist. Besides, "Welcome to the Jungle" severly kicks knockin in the groin, over and over and over again.

Can you quote what you're referencing, this thread is poised to dive bomb in to a catty-one-liners jamboree, can we get some integrity.

MURDER JUNKIE · 11-26-2008, 12:20 PM

What do you mean "it's going to be"?

If you haven't listened to it you really shouldn't have an opinion

What I can't understand is why Axl isn't doing any PR for this album, if they are going to recoup the 17 years of recording costs this album needs all the help it can get. I wonder what the total recording cost was?

spark10036 · 11-26-2008, 01:40 PM

I really don't think he's having any money problems...he is the sole owner to the rights of the previous albums.

anw I think that's the way to do it!the old hard rock way,let the music make all the talking thing...

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ins0mniac Groupie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Atl Posts: 25	"On the aforementioned "Sorry," Rose suddenly sings an otherwise innocuous line ("But I don't want to do it") in some bizarre, quasi-Transylvanian accent, and I cannot begin to speculate as to why. I mean, one has to assume Axl thought about all of these individual choices a minimum of a thousand times over the past 15 years. Somewhere in Los Angles, there's gotta be 400 hours of DAT tape with nothing on it except multiple versions of the "Sorry" vocal. So why is this the one we finally hear? What finally made him decide, "You know, I've weighed all my options and all their potential consequences, and I'm going with the Mexican vampire accent."" It's so true bahahaha. Great review, for the most part I agree. Axl did what he wanted to. He gave us an album that was as much of a continuation from The Illusion series as possible. While working on his own time. Many people don't agree with it obviously, but Axl knows his diehard fans are willing to wait if he's making music and he put together an outstanding creation even if parts of it are seemingly over-complex. If you're gonna hate on Axl for this album, as he would say, get in the ring. My personal favorite tracks are "Better", "There Was A Time", and "Madagascar." With "Better" being quite possibly my favorite GnR song period.

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MURDER JUNKIE The Wetter The Better!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SH1TTY London Ontario Canada Posts: 2,504	What do you mean "it's going to be"? If you haven't listened to it you really shouldn't have an opinion What I can't understand is why Axl isn't doing any PR for this album, if they are going to recoup the 17 years of recording costs this album needs all the help it can get. I wonder what the total recording cost was?