Guns N' Roses (Yes and Chinese Democracy, so don't make other threads on it.) (ticket, alternative)

[Sneer]

Originally Posted by draven

Or name me another rock band that had two albums place in the top 5 at the same time (gnr did it twice). There are none since the 60s besides guns n roses.
That is all, you have lost. Good day.

led zeppelin had 3 albums in the top 10 in 1971

[draven]

Originally Posted by LedZepStu

your one of those annoyibg ****s who basically has their own opinion which the world revolves around. some prefer early 90s. some prefer the 00s. not everyone agrees with your stupid viewpoints. theres no fact to back up what your saying at all. so, sir, what are YOU talking about?

Again I have already proven how I am right and you are wrong. I have given you album sales, concert numbers, how gnr headlined the VMAS in 1992 when you claimed that nirvana was bigger etc etc. While I have given you facts how gnr were bigger, you have just given me your opinion that nirvana was bigger with nothing to back it up.

Originally Posted by LedZepStu

led zeppelin had 3 albums in the top 10 in 1971

Learn how to read, TOP 5

Originally Posted by LedZepStu

making up numbers? look on most biographys of nirvanas and you will see that what i say is the truth. your bigging up guns and roses, saying their the best band since the beatles, what about zeppelin? sabbath? sex pistols? The clash? pink floyd? the rolling stones? you speak as a fan, which (as i well know from experience) results in a complete lack of rationality. basically, to me, everything you say is BS.

Again you are making up numbers, I already showed you how AFD sold 15m in the USA yet you claim they sold just 14m world wide. You need to get your facts straight and stop making up stuff.

And again, I already changed my statement since you guys like talking semantics, guns n roses were ONE OF the biggest bands since the beatles.
But again gnr in the early 90s were beatle big. If you do believe that then you are an idiot because its true. You really need to understand what being the best and biggest means because they are totally different.

And FYI the sex pistols were never big they were more underground, the same goes for the clash. You can make a case for zep and the stones but they were in the 60s and 70s around the same time as the beatles. Sabbith was never as big as guns n roses in the 90s.

Furthermore, this debate is weather or not nirvana was bigger than gnr in the 90s and you have yet to prove that. I have already proven how huge gnr was in the 90s moreso than nirvana or any other band in the 90s.

[draven]

Originally Posted by Merkaba

mr competitive arent we. Say All these other bands ie Nirvana were to hold the same amount of concerts as gnr did...would they not do just as well? if not...how can you possibly answer that?

You arent the minds of the billions of people out there who quite possibly have a different thinking to your ***OpInIoN!!**** therefore based purely on facts you are right. Based on everything else, well im sorry mate but you cant answer that coz its purely ur opinion doing the talking.

use your illusion....

Like I said, what band is better is opinion, what band is bigger is fact not opinion since you can back it up. I am not sure what is so hard to understand about that.

The fact is if in 1992 nirvana tried to sell out a 50,000 seat arena, they would not be able to fill it, gnr did it nightly.

The fact of the matter is the reason nirvana didnt play in front of as many people as gnr did is because they couldnt, they didnt have that many fans or that many people did not want to see them. Outside the USA nirvana were not as big. Gnr were huge in the usa and every other country in the world.

[Merkaba]

Originally Posted by draven

The fact is if in 1992 nirvana tried to sell out a 50,000 seat arena, they would not be able to fill it, gnr did it nightly.

The fact of the matter is the reason nirvana didnt play in front of as many people as gnr did is because they couldnt, they didnt have that many fans or that many people did not want to see them. Outside the USA nirvana were not as big. Gnr were huge in the usa and every other country in the world.

I G N O RA N T ! ! !

I know ur loyal to axles homo erotic tight pants but ur just pure ignorant.
The fact is.... blah blah blah no one cares. Nirvana didnt hold them concerts so how can u tell if they wud fill or not???
Your blind, soo soo blind.
And "The fact is".... Your ***.

[Trauma]

I was just thinking about this and Nirvana's Nevermind hit #1 all around the world.
This compares to The Sex Pistols' Never Mind the Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols because even though it didn't sell the most albums, it was #1 anyway. Just saying..

like ledzepstu said, nirvana changed the sound of music and it is for this reason that i think they were bigger not because they played in front of more people or sold more albums or whatever

[Trauma]

Yeah draven is ****ing stupid dude.
I think all he/she has is statistics, not the matter of opinion.

[draven]

Wow you guys don't have to cry over this just because I keep proving my point.

I am sorry but nirvana didnt change the sound of music by themselves, they had help by bands like pearl jam, soundgarden and AIC like I said before. If nirvana really did it on their own why did their first album flop then? If it was really all nirvana who changed the face of music (for the worse might I add) then why didn't bleach take off when it was first released?

I have proven time and time again how gnr was so much bigger than nirvana and you cry babies have given me nothing.

Here is the nail in the coffin for you teenage angst poor misinformed childen.

In 1992 guns n roses did a PPV for the whole world just so the people that could never get a ticket to their sold out shows could see them live. If I am not mistaken they were the first rock band in history to do a PPV. If gnr were not as big as you guys claim then they would never have been able to pull that off.

Nirvana NEVER did they yet you seem to think nirvana was bigger.

[adidasss]

i think draven's whooping your asses people...it's useless to disagree with his logic, i don't think nirvana was a stadium ( football stadium) rock band like gnr were, nirvana was more underground, alternative, gnr was rock for the masses...i know who was bigger then all of them though....RICKY MARTIN AND ENRIQUE IGLESIAS!!!GO RICKY GO ENRIQUE....

oh sh!t.....