Almost. Teenage Fanclub also has three great song-writers. I'm being a little tongue-in-cheek, but not very. I'm really not sure which band has a better catalogue. I think Teenage Fanclub is criminally underrated, and one of the greatest bands ever with a rather amazing number of excellent songs.

The Beatles have some okay songs but they really are overrated. And it's annoying that people get so damn indignant if you don't think they're the greatest band ever in the history of music.

Because Boo Boo asked , but with my own slant on things....

So you own an album less than 30 years old. Good for you but we still don't give a flying fuck about what you think about our favourite bands because at the end of the day you listen still to Genesis and we don't.

There's no greatest band because everyone likes different genres...but if you flat out hate the Beatles for no reason then I wouldn't be happy.

The anvil around the neck of prog. Genesis is an important band.

Take a look at the picture , what do you notice.
A typical British NWOBHM band perhaps?

I notice something else.

I notice that this picture was taken somewhere that looks at a builders yard. Not only that but the band themselves look like they probably work there.
And thats what brings me to my next choice on this list. The decline of the 'ordinary bloke' metal bands.
These bands were a staple of British rock throughout the 70s & 80s who toured the length and breadth of the country playing working mens clubs , town halls , sports centres and holiday camps in such glamourous places such as Margate , Carlisle , Whitby and Walsall.
Not only that they'd probably paint & decorate your back bedroom as well if you bought them a pint and threw them 20 quid cash in hand no questions asked.

It's so different now , with metal fans willing to rip your band to shreds if your album doesn't create some new sub sub sub genre on release and not forgetting you have to have about 30 piercings in your face , wear clown make up and cover your entire bodies in tattoos just to fit in. either that or have to be an ultra skinny kid with a noticeable haircut. There's just no fun there anymore , it's all so deadly serious.

What British rock & metal is crying out for right now is ordinary blokes who know that they look slightly ridiculous in a pair of jeans that are far too tight and a slightly receding hairline just rocking out just having fun doing what they do with no pretensions making a few good songs along the way without being declared ''the future of music" before their first single even comes out and being trashed as being unfashionable & yesterdays news when it finally does come out.

Is that really too much to ask?

You need to come to Detroit. These are a very common thing. You can see three bands under this heading a night in the metro area.

Ahh but those are pub bands. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about bands with major label record deals and nationwide tours yet still look and act as if they work on a building site.

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Impromptu post?

I see your point about Metal bands, and that's for sure true. Check out Red-I-Flight though, they are new to victory records, but they might fit your profile. These are blue-collar guys who love metal music making their own mark.

Hmmm I don't know.

They'd need to have a brummie accent , support a lower league football club have a member called Big Dave for me to be REALLY interested.

They have a dude named Turkey, a singer who used to look like Ellen Degeneres and a guy who is really good at Fifa Soccor on Wi...close enough?

Would you consider America to be one of those bands?

Horse with no Name is not a metal song. It's barely aluminum

The Detroit thing is a big sticking point.

Thats practically exotic compared to Scunthorpe or Hull

Being born in Ireland aside, I can tell you Detroit is anything but exotic.

ah damn, I didn't see the big "metal" part of that....

Yeah but i'm from a small island. I can relate to the hopelessness of a shitty British seaside resort much more than a big Amercian city.

Certainly. Personally I've enjoyed the renaissance of metal music here stateside.

Local clubs are full of great music these days, you just got to wade through the shit to find the diamonds.

At least you have local clubs.

I went to a Billy Childish gig here a couple of years back. (The first proper gig here in about 5 years of any band)

In the dining room of a bowling club

Here places in which bowling takes place are referred to as alleys. And rather aptly so I might suggest.

It was the function room above the alley :p:

Well that changes everything now doesn't it.

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You hit the nail right on the head. On progarchives theres a bunch of old f*cks who pretty much just hand out 5 stars to all the Supertramp and Happy The Man albums they own but they always have to throw in an album by Radiohead, The Mars Volta, Sigur Ros or some other modern band just to give it a lousy review and have a long boring rant about how modern music dosen't rank up against the classics, even though that one album alone is probably the extent to which they bothered listening to anything since 1981 not made by f*cking Marillion.

I was actually thinking more along the lines of the ones that DO like them and use that as an excuse to bore everybody that they're up to date with the current music scene because of this.

They also have a habit of comparing bands that should never be compared, and by that I mean any modern band that could be considered progressive rock in one way or the other.

"Tool try so hard to be progressive, but they just don't have the talent that Dream Theater does"

"The Mars Volta try so hard to be progressive, but they just don't have the talent that Tool does"

"Radiohead try so hard to be progressive, but they just don't have the talent that The Mars Volta does"

"Sigur Ros try so hard to be progressive, but they just don't have the talent that Radiohead does"

"Godspeed try so hard to be progressive, but they just don't have the talent that Sigur Ros does"

And so on and so on.

Sh*t like that especially bothers me.

Quite honestly I couldn't care less about it. I don't think anybody really cares about what's real and what isn't real emo apart from a few diehard fans or people looking score points on an internet forum to show how smart they are. I think 4 or 5 years of emo kids whining about it has just bored everyone to tears on the whole subject.
Besides , real emo is practically a nostalgia trip now anyway. Virtually all of their favourite bands have spilt up or gone commercial , why would I want to piss on their parade even more? Give them a couple of more years and they'll be like the old punks in the 80s boring the hell out of anyone about the 'spirit of 77' unable to move on.

If they want to go around trying to find every single obscure split or demo from 8 or 9 years ago like a bunch of rabid trainspotters let them , they're not doing me any harm.

lol at your picture choice.

A Simon Cowell handpuppet and an ageing rocker living on past glories who hasn't stolen a good song* in over 30 years.

Congratulations to the 2012 London Olympic committee events organisers for managing to encapsulate exactly what current British culture is all about in a 4 minute long nutshell in a far better way than I ever could.


* I meant to write written a good song , I do apologise. Easy mistake to make.

Yeah....this has been plaguing music for years. Finally someone spoke out against Leona Lewis and Jimmy Page at the 2008 Olympics. I remember back in the '80s, I thought this was getting out of control.

Totally agree. While I enjoy cd's very much, I also just got back into collecting vinyl records. It's pretty neat finding something on vinyl(a certain track) that wasn't released on cd, plus, very cool to collect colored/etched vinyl. Im into collecting 80s 12" maxi singles, it's pretty neat finding different mixes of songs that you cannot find on cd.

I can see how it can get a bit overblown though. I think alot of the supposed "vinyl being in" BS is just that, BS. All the "cool kids" are doing it now(whatever that means).

FWIW: I think Spinal Tap is ****ing hysterical, and I didnt "get it" until about 15-16 years ago, when a friend and I watched it, and we cracked up throughout the whole thing.

Never quite understood this obsession/fascination folks have w/: Leona Lewis/Corinne Bailey/ and Lilly Allen? Sorry...I just dont "get it".

Oh god not the "Zeppelin never wrote their own songs" thing again.

Ok boo boo, just...... let it go.

I was being ironic about the people that complain about such things.

You really think if I was so precious about plagiarizing I would have posted a list of about 50 songs by The Fall that are nicked.

Whoooooosh. My bad.

Man what the hell was going on there? If i was a die-hard Zep fan i imagine it would have been like watching your loved ones slowly drown.

As if playing for P Diddy wasn't enough.

It was very Shatnerian.

Stereotypical newbie spammer?

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What the hell is this? An inlay CD booklet from 50% of bands out there in whatever genre. What the hell is it with these random images? Are they trying to be abstract or proclaim their love of modern art in a pathetic attempt to reach new fans? Stop wasting paper and my time in taking the thing out to take a look at in the hope that I may have read something informative. Morons.

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Did you catch that programme on C4 about a year or so ago about the promoter Harvey Goldsmith trying to resurrect Saxon's fortunes in Britain? He failed because it's not what the kids want. It's only us oldies that want to see good working class Metal bands. Times have changed and so has the demographic. Even at grass roots, bands with members over 30 and just starting out have virtually no chance.

I didn't see the Saxon one , which is a shame because I saw most of the series.

I'm not saying they should be over 30 , I just don't see regular blokes in British metal bands anymore and it seems the ones that are want to do is either play dress up , try to become virtuoso instrumentalists or become as extreme sounding as possible. I don't see any who just want to get up there and have a bit of fun.
It happens in other areas of British rock , thats how we got Oasis & Arctic Monkeys.