An Infinite Number Of Things That Pisses Me Off About Music

jackhammer · 08-25-2008, 01:33 PM

To be fair The Darkness put the very last nail in that particular coffin of trad Metal bands. I know exactly where you are coming from and lament the dearth of really good metal bands but I don't think we will ever see those days again. It's Image first and music later with so many bands so if you are just a regular guy, your'e out.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-25-2008, 01:52 PM

73 : The Bastardization Of The Terms 'Psychedelic' And 'Space Rock'

I like to go around checking out new bands , downloading new albums of artists I have never heard of , and if there is one way to get me interested in your music it's to describe it as Psychedelic or Space Rock. Do that and with me you get an instant download and my attention and time.

However I have noticed a growing trend where I download someone who says they are Psychedelic or Space Rock only to find what I am in fact listening to is turgid bland unoriginal Post Rock. When I listen to these genres I want some or all of the following things : swirling guitars , demented keyboard or sax , pulverising basslines , hypnotic drumming , echoey vocals , crunching riffs. I don't want a song that sounds like someones left a brick on a keyboard and fucked off down the pub.

If you look above you'll see an example of what I mean. i checked out this Argentinian band called Go Neko! , as I said I was promised Psychedelia and Space Rock. I looked at the cover and was astonished to discover it was a carbon copy of Hawkwind's Quark , Strangeness & Charm album cover. At this point i'm thinking about to download something obviously influenced by Hawkwind. So you could imagine my disappointment when I start to listen to it only to discover it's the 2000th 'Psychedelic or Space Rock' album i've heard this month that just sounds like a Mogwai/Godspeed/Sigur Ros album with all the originality taken out.

I think all of these generic post rock bands out there (And trust me , there are fucking thousands of them) are finding that people are bored of Post Rock now and are having to lable their stuff as other things.

Don't get caught out.

P.S. Psych-Folk can fuck off as well. To me it doesn't sound remotely Psych or Folk and suspiciously like jangly indie.

**Janszoon** · 08-25-2008, 02:06 PM

On a similar note, I can't stand American psychedelic bands. What in the flaming fuck is "psychedelic" about songs that just sound like long-winded country music? England actually produced some truly psychedelic sounding music back in the 60s with bands like Pink Floyd and Soft Machine, but the US most just churned folksy, country garbage like the Grateful Dead.

Whatsitoosit · 08-25-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

'I like the blue one'
'Well I like the green one'
'Hey have you heard the red one yet'

It's enough to make me want to lay a brown one.

LOL!!!! damn that's funny. I suck for I am guilty of this.

This list rules so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yes! I went to a Ween show this past winter that was great until the 15 minute drum solo at the end. Who the hell goes to a Ween show to hear the drummer anyway?

Tommy Lee flipping upside down while keeping a beat is rather entertaining but I agree... not necessary.

jackhammer · 08-25-2008, 02:09 PM

Urban did you ever check out Electric Orange? I thought my thread may have piqued your interest.

http://www.musicbanter.com/classic-r...lectric+orange

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-25-2008, 02:23 PM

That's pretty good. I must have missed it when you posted it.

**Janszoon** · 08-25-2008, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Ever heard of the 13th Floor Elevators? Quicksilver Messenger Service? Country Joe And The Fish? The Doors? Jefferson Airplane? The Electric Prunes? Sly & The Family Stone?

I'm familiar with all those bands except Quicksilver Messenger Service and the Electric Prunes, but I don't find any of them particularly psychedelic sounding.

ETA: I just checked out both the bands I hadn't heard of on iTunes. Quicksilver Messenger Service is exactly what I was talking about with American psychedelic music, way too country sounding to feel trippy at all. Electric Prunes were better but still didn't seem all that psychedelic to me.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-25-2008, 02:56 PM

I love the 13th Floor Elevators and I know they were labelled the first psychedelic band but they sound nothing like what the genre became known as. they were just a garage band tripping their tits off.

lucifer_sam · 08-25-2008, 02:57 PM

Wait what what whoa. Which people call Godspeed psychedelic? The same ones that insist that Ringo is an underrated drummer?

Because he is.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-25-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Wait what what whoa. Which people call Godspeed psychedelic?

Nobody is

Read it again

08-25-2008, 01:33 PM	#361 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	To be fair The Darkness put the very last nail in that particular coffin of trad Metal bands. I know exactly where you are coming from and lament the dearth of really good metal bands but I don't think we will ever see those days again. It's Image first and music later with so many bands so if you are just a regular guy, your'e out. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

08-25-2008, 01:52 PM	#362 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	73 : The Bastardization Of The Terms 'Psychedelic' And 'Space Rock' I like to go around checking out new bands , downloading new albums of artists I have never heard of , and if there is one way to get me interested in your music it's to describe it as Psychedelic or Space Rock. Do that and with me you get an instant download and my attention and time. However I have noticed a growing trend where I download someone who says they are Psychedelic or Space Rock only to find what I am in fact listening to is turgid bland unoriginal Post Rock. When I listen to these genres I want some or all of the following things : swirling guitars , demented keyboard or sax , pulverising basslines , hypnotic drumming , echoey vocals , crunching riffs. I don't want a song that sounds like someones left a brick on a keyboard and fucked off down the pub. If you look above you'll see an example of what I mean. i checked out this Argentinian band called Go Neko! , as I said I was promised Psychedelia and Space Rock. I looked at the cover and was astonished to discover it was a carbon copy of Hawkwind's Quark , Strangeness & Charm album cover. At this point i'm thinking about to download something obviously influenced by Hawkwind. So you could imagine my disappointment when I start to listen to it only to discover it's the 2000th 'Psychedelic or Space Rock' album i've heard this month that just sounds like a Mogwai/Godspeed/Sigur Ros album with all the originality taken out. I think all of these generic post rock bands out there (And trust me , there are fucking thousands of them) are finding that people are bored of Post Rock now and are having to lable their stuff as other things. Don't get caught out. P.S. Psych-Folk can fuck off as well. To me it doesn't sound remotely Psych or Folk and suspiciously like jangly indie. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-25-2008, 02:06 PM	#363 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	On a similar note, I can't stand American psychedelic bands. What in the flaming fuck is "psychedelic" about songs that just sound like long-winded country music? England actually produced some truly psychedelic sounding music back in the 60s with bands like Pink Floyd and Soft Machine, but the US most just churned folksy, country garbage like the Grateful Dead. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

08-25-2008, 02:09 PM	#365 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Urban did you ever check out Electric Orange? I thought my thread may have piqued your interest. http://www.musicbanter.com/classic-r...lectric+orange __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

08-25-2008, 02:23 PM	#366 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	That's pretty good. I must have missed it when you posted it. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-25-2008, 02:56 PM	#368 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I love the 13th Floor Elevators and I know they were labelled the first psychedelic band but they sound nothing like what the genre became known as. they were just a garage band tripping their tits off. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-25-2008, 02:57 PM	#369 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	Wait what what whoa. Which people call Godspeed psychedelic? The same ones that insist that Ringo is an underrated drummer? Because he is. __________________ first.am