An Infinite Number Of Things That Pisses Me Off About Music

Minstrel · 08-12-2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It's been said that vinyl has a superior sound quality than a CD.

Vinyl has better fidelity when new, since it's analog. So the sound wave is captured continuously, whereas digital, as a bunch of numbers, approximates the sound wave. Of course, A. the approximation is pretty damn good and very hard to hear the difference and B. vinyl swiftly loses fidelity over repeated playings as the needle distorts the grooves.

So, vinyl might be marginally better sound quality for a few months to a year (depending on your listening patterns), but CDs are better after that.

SATCHMO · 08-12-2008, 10:48 AM

The "wave of the future" is digital music files. basically MP3s wih higher sampling rates, and thus higher fidelity. CDs are limited in fidelity by their sampling rate which doesn't allow them to reproduce the entire harmonic spectrum of the music. Vinyl, which as minstrel noted is technically superior to CD's, depreciates in fidelity the more frequently its played and also requires a $$$$ sound system to really even notice the difference.

boo boo · 08-12-2008, 01:55 PM

With Southern Rock it all depends, love CCR if they count, I like Allman Bros and Skynyrd too.

I don't think theres anything wrong with rock bands being a little country. Country artists being a little rock however, THAT is a problem.

cardboard adolescent · 08-12-2008, 01:58 PM

buying vinyl makes more sense than buying cd's at this point... plus it's a way to support the artist. and nothing beats the hiss and crackle of vinyl, it's just so authentic. us new kids have to cling to the past because the present is shit.

boo boo · 08-12-2008, 02:00 PM

Buying anything nowadays is pointless, you could download anything for free and hell, mp3s are everywhere now, just about every song ever recorded is on youtube now anyway.

jackhammer · 08-12-2008, 02:45 PM

As Heavy Metal was my first musical love in, I have to disagree about vinyl. There is nothing like a gatefold sleeve with great artwork and readable sleeve notes and YES in terms of say Jazz and Rock the sound quality is better. Sure they are cumbersome but vinyl was a big part of my formative years and I sincerely regret getting rid of my vinyl years ago.

MP3' sure are easier to carry around but the quality will always suffer and I can definitely hear compression in them and I'm not being a stuck up audiophile. If you are a music lover then (money permitting) you should listen to music on the best possible kit you can buy and in the best possible format too.

Minstrel · 08-12-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Buying anything nowadays is pointless, you could download anything for free and hell, mp3s are everywhere now, just about every song ever recorded is on youtube now anyway.

You'd think so, and it might be true for many/most. I find, however, that I want the physical artifact of the album, for artists/albums that I consider great. There's something to the physical collection that isn't replicated entirely by an external hard drive packed with mp3s.

Though, that is another form of collecting and fun in its own right. I just don't find one to be a replacement for the other.

boo boo · 08-12-2008, 03:11 PM

I always hear from the progheads that vinyl is supreme.

I have a bunch of vinyl records my bro gave me but I don't have a record player. Then again most of the records I have is 80s arena rock like Journey and Asia.

lucifer_sam · 08-12-2008, 03:24 PM

The only vinyl I have are my dad's thirty-year-old records (which actually aren't in bad condition or bad records to begin with). His old Pioneer phonograph player is pretty good too, with an awesome surround system to accompany it.

I couldn't collect vinyl myself, but I could see how someone could appreciate them.

Piss Me Off · 08-12-2008, 03:35 PM

I used to collect a fair bit of vinyl, mostly Smiths stuff, until my record player broke. May have been a good thing considering how expensive it all was, but it was quite handy in listening to b-sides that i hadn't heard before.

08-12-2008, 02:45 PM	#186 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	As Heavy Metal was my first musical love in, I have to disagree about vinyl. There is nothing like a gatefold sleeve with great artwork and readable sleeve notes and YES in terms of say Jazz and Rock the sound quality is better. Sure they are cumbersome but vinyl was a big part of my formative years and I sincerely regret getting rid of my vinyl years ago. MP3' sure are easier to carry around but the quality will always suffer and I can definitely hear compression in them and I'm not being a stuck up audiophile. If you are a music lover then (money permitting) you should listen to music on the best possible kit you can buy and in the best possible format too. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

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lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	The only vinyl I have are my dad's thirty-year-old records (which actually aren't in bad condition or bad records to begin with). His old Pioneer phonograph player is pretty good too, with an awesome surround system to accompany it. I couldn't collect vinyl myself, but I could see how someone could appreciate them. __________________ first.am

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Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,512	I used to collect a fair bit of vinyl, mostly Smiths stuff, until my record player broke. May have been a good thing considering how expensive it all was, but it was quite handy in listening to b-sides that i hadn't heard before. __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

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SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	The "wave of the future" is digital music files. basically MP3s wih higher sampling rates, and thus higher fidelity. CDs are limited in fidelity by their sampling rate which doesn't allow them to reproduce the entire harmonic spectrum of the music. Vinyl, which as minstrel noted is technically superior to CD's, depreciates in fidelity the more frequently its played and also requires a $$$$ sound system to really even notice the difference.

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cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	buying vinyl makes more sense than buying cd's at this point... plus it's a way to support the artist. and nothing beats the hiss and crackle of vinyl, it's just so authentic. us new kids have to cling to the past because the present is shit.