An Infinite Number Of Things That Pisses Me Off About Music

mr dave · 10-08-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

Then maybe they should make the title, "Fuck it, I'm Not Bothering With a Title."

if they can't be bothered with titling their work then odds are their work wasn't worth recording in the first place.

Arya Stark · 10-08-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

if they can't be bothered with titling their work then odds are their work wasn't worth recording in the first place.

I'm joking.

But that's not necessarily true. Not every song needs a name.

It doesn't have to be called "Untitled" but it doesn't need a name.

I would rather NIN's "Ghost I," etc.

mr dave · 10-08-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

I'm joking.

But that's not necessarily true. Not every song needs a name.

It doesn't have to be called "Untitled" but it doesn't need a name.

I would rather NIN's "Ghost I," etc.

at least 'Ghost X' follows a named theme. by sticking with 'untitled' it makes it seem as though no one involved in the process of creating that piece ever gave enough of a crap about it to do anything besides the absolute bare minimum.

Arya Stark · 10-08-2009, 05:34 PM

We're agreeing with each other. xD

I'm not going to say anything else.

NumberNineDream · 10-08-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

at least 'Ghost X' follows a named theme. by sticking with 'untitled' it makes it seem as though no one involved in the process of creating that piece ever gave enough of a crap about it to do anything besides the absolute bare minimum.

^I don't think that's true at all, it's just like saying "Symphony no.5", it doesn't need a word to describe the song, the song describes itself.

It's like any other kind of Art, except in music we're going backwards. It's like when Bacon names his painting "Painting".

There's always something pretentious in titles, when the work of art doesn't include any words. How can anyone describe something abstract?

mr dave · 10-08-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream

^I don't think that's true at all, it's just like saying "Symphony no.5", it doesn't need a word to describe the song, the song describes itself.

It's like any other kind of Art, except in music we're going backwards. It's like when Bacon names his painting "Painting".

There's always something pretentious in titles, when the work of art doesn't include any words. How can anyone describe something abstract?

comparing a modern song to a classical symphony is like comparing a pebble in your driveway to a mountain in the Himalayas.

while i agree there's always a little something pretentious in naming one's creations, there's something far more pretentious in refusing to name them from either laziness or a hypocritical fear or appearing pretentious. especially when they're 5 minute pop rock overtures.

Arya Stark · 10-08-2009, 05:50 PM

You're agreeing with him, too.

He's saying that "Ghost X" is better than having no name.

NumberNineDream · 10-08-2009, 05:53 PM

no, I'm saying it's better to have no name.
Because something abstract [like instrumental music], should stay abstract.

Arya Stark · 10-08-2009, 05:56 PM

So you'd rather it be called "Untitled?"

NumberNineDream · 10-08-2009, 06:17 PM

I don't know about which track you're talking, I'm just saying in general. I agree a that a symphony can't be compared to to 'modern' song. But they work on the same concept.

I hate it when people try to explain an instrumental song or a painting.
And I donno how we can know which 'untitled' is hypocrite or lazy or just not being pretentious. As for me, I got no problem with it.

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