An Infinite Number Of Things That Pisses Me Off About Music

Grunge_Junkie · 09-23-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel

Maybe where you live its different, but as I stated before, in Boston the "alternative" station is trapped in 1995, aside from the 2 nu-metal tracks and the white stripes and franz ferdinand being played occassionally.

I used to think like you too, right before WBCN switched to ramming AIC, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, RHCP, Live, Candlebox, Temple of the Dog, Mad Season, etc. down my throat.

Youll get it eventually, I think you have the right mindset, being into Flipper and Scratch Acid and what-not. Just keep in mind that Grunge is slowly starting to be considered "classic rock", so while one could make a case arguing that bands like Pink Floyd are underground in the sense that 80% of dumb high school kids dont listen to them and havent heard of anything other than mainstream rap and pop, they are just as immensely popular today. Just like Pearl Jam

Yeah you are right. i guess i will get soon..but still i dont think its mainstream. but you guys all ways prove me wrong so yeah...

Akira · 09-23-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

my bad, either way jackson was still on a decline. the 'dangerous' album only scored one major #1 hit stateside. he wasn't anywhere near the indomitable force he was in the early 80s.

actually after checking the net as opposed to relying on memory ousting 'bad' would have been a greater feat than topping 'dangerous'.

...other than Dangerous selling 30 million records, more even than Bad.

Cobe Kai · 09-23-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel

I think he was using them as an example of "album Oriented Rock"

The cellist from ELO actually lives 3 minutes walk from my house... his daughter was a drummer in one of my older bands about 3-4 years ago.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-23-2008, 06:08 PM

17 : Radio 1 DJs

Radio 1 DJs have always been a shower of shit. It used to be that there the place was filled with old men with about as much of a concept of youth culture as Clive Grandad Dunn. Now that it's all hip & trendy it's still filled with a shower of shit.
Although for a period in the late 90s it did have something going for it and I did used to listen to it regually both at work and at home. During the day you had Simon Mayo who was a lot better than people give him credit for and you got the impression you were listening to someone with a brain in his head. Following that was Jo Whiley , i'll get to her later. After that was the highlight of my afternoon . Mark Radcliffe & Lard (aka ex-Fall guitarist Marc Riley in his comedy sidekick role) Who actually put on a decent show to say they were only allowed to play 4 records of their own choice during a whole 2 hour show. Then you had Chris Moyles when he was actually funny , I'll never forget his feud with the Daily Mirror 3am girls and the time Paul Daniels told him to fuck off and put the phone down on him. The daytime playlist sucked but at least the DJs themselves kept you entertained.

Then it was back home after work to listen to the serious music with Steve Lamacq and then finally John Peel. All in all things were pretty good on Radio 1 around 98/02.

Sadly after that most of the best DJs left and sadly John Peel died , and it turned to shit pretty much instantly.
Moyles was moved to the breakfast show and has basically bored people with how drunk he got the night before for about the past 6 or 7 years.

Jo 'Indie Queen' Whiley has been living on past glories for about the past 15 years and we're supposed to give a shit about what she says because she booked Nirvana & The Smashing Pumpkins in 1992 and apparently she's still 'hip & trendy' for repeatedly playing every turgid british guitar band going.

As for the rest of them I don't know why they suddenly decided to go with celebrities but i don't think there's anything Sara Cox , Jamie Theakston or Ferne Cotton can tell me about music , or anything for that matter. It seems quite obvious to me Radio 1's policy seems to be get a known name and people won't notice how bland the playlist is. Oh and Zane Lowe gets on my nerves just doing a voiceover for a 30 second long TV advert so fuck knows how anyone makes it through his whole show. The rest of the roster seems to be made up of faceless dance DJ's who seem to have permanent residence in Ibiza playing to total mongs.

And as for Tim Westwood , hell that guy deserves an entry of his own.

Double X · 09-23-2008, 06:11 PM

Wow it's winding down and I was excited for learning #1...but now I just want it to continue. You need to make a Rant Thread or something...

Akira · 09-23-2008, 06:12 PM

Absolutely. And if all that's not bad enough, you get the smaller stations over here, like Galaxy or Viking, with 'young adults' who all speak as though they are your mates and you're just in the pub with them. If ya gonna talk to me like that, get me a friggin' pint!

jackhammer · 09-23-2008, 06:15 PM

To be fair, Radio One has become so reliant on corporate sponsorship, it leaves little room for maverick D.J's. I have'nt heard Radio One for a couple of years but now my line of work has changed a little and involves travelling I am now hearing Radio One again and it's fecking terrible but that's how it is. We will NEVER have a John Peel and even if he is out there (I Imagine him to be a hybrid of a few mods on here

, he won't get the time or space to develop and inform.

Radio One seriously does'nt matter now. In this day and age of the web and DAB radios etc we can still find off mainstream music. It would be nice to have a voice to guide us though.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-23-2008, 06:15 PM

Dammit

I forgot to mention Colin 'MY VOICE ONLY HAS TWO SETTINGS , LOUD AND REALLY FUCKING LOUD' Murray.

Akira · 09-23-2008, 06:16 PM

Now Mark and Lard in the 22:00-00:00 slot, that was pure comedy and musical gold.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-23-2008, 06:46 PM

16 : Pete Doherty

I can't remember who it was who referred to Pete Doherty as a 'moon faced cunt' , but it seemed to fit so well that I have called him that ever since I heard it.

What I really don't understand about this whole thing with him is why he's regarded as some sort of song writing genius. I mean fucking hell have you HEARD a Babyshambles album? They sound no better than some pissed up pub band. I can't remember the first Babyshambles song I heard but to me it sounded like someone doing a Pulp song at a drunken karaoke.
I mean don't get me wrong here , I own around 55 Fall albums ,If anyone can appreciate a piece of music written by a pisshead it's me , and I do think The Libertines debut album has some appeal to it, it's just very limited. That's why I only listen to it about once every 3 years. I find it tends to get old pretty quickly.

I don't think Pete Doherty has anything particularly interesting to say , he's just a nice middle class boy acting the rock star using obvious targets to write about to appear deep and edgy , and people seem to fall for it. Let's face it if he wasn't out with supermodels and having a celebrity drug habit would anyone really care about some third rate Billy Bragg wannabe?
I measure his contribution to music solo-wise to be as about as important as Donny Tourette. don't be fooled just because one sings cock rock and the other uses acoustic guitar and 'meaningful lyrics' that doesn't make the music any more substantial they're just as bad as each other.

09-23-2008, 06:08 PM	#1094 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	17 : Radio 1 DJs Radio 1 DJs have always been a shower of shit. It used to be that there the place was filled with old men with about as much of a concept of youth culture as Clive Grandad Dunn. Now that it's all hip & trendy it's still filled with a shower of shit. Although for a period in the late 90s it did have something going for it and I did used to listen to it regually both at work and at home. During the day you had Simon Mayo who was a lot better than people give him credit for and you got the impression you were listening to someone with a brain in his head. Following that was Jo Whiley , i'll get to her later. After that was the highlight of my afternoon . Mark Radcliffe & Lard (aka ex-Fall guitarist Marc Riley in his comedy sidekick role) Who actually put on a decent show to say they were only allowed to play 4 records of their own choice during a whole 2 hour show. Then you had Chris Moyles when he was actually funny , I'll never forget his feud with the Daily Mirror 3am girls and the time Paul Daniels told him to fuck off and put the phone down on him. The daytime playlist sucked but at least the DJs themselves kept you entertained. Then it was back home after work to listen to the serious music with Steve Lamacq and then finally John Peel. All in all things were pretty good on Radio 1 around 98/02. Sadly after that most of the best DJs left and sadly John Peel died , and it turned to shit pretty much instantly. Moyles was moved to the breakfast show and has basically bored people with how drunk he got the night before for about the past 6 or 7 years. Jo 'Indie Queen' Whiley has been living on past glories for about the past 15 years and we're supposed to give a shit about what she says because she booked Nirvana & The Smashing Pumpkins in 1992 and apparently she's still 'hip & trendy' for repeatedly playing every turgid british guitar band going. As for the rest of them I don't know why they suddenly decided to go with celebrities but i don't think there's anything Sara Cox , Jamie Theakston or Ferne Cotton can tell me about music , or anything for that matter. It seems quite obvious to me Radio 1's policy seems to be get a known name and people won't notice how bland the playlist is. Oh and Zane Lowe gets on my nerves just doing a voiceover for a 30 second long TV advert so fuck knows how anyone makes it through his whole show. The rest of the roster seems to be made up of faceless dance DJ's who seem to have permanent residence in Ibiza playing to total mongs. And as for Tim Westwood , hell that guy deserves an entry of his own. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-23-2008, 06:15 PM	#1097 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	To be fair, Radio One has become so reliant on corporate sponsorship, it leaves little room for maverick D.J's. I have'nt heard Radio One for a couple of years but now my line of work has changed a little and involves travelling I am now hearing Radio One again and it's fecking terrible but that's how it is. We will NEVER have a John Peel and even if he is out there (I Imagine him to be a hybrid of a few mods on here , he won't get the time or space to develop and inform. Radio One seriously does'nt matter now. In this day and age of the web and DAB radios etc we can still find off mainstream music. It would be nice to have a voice to guide us though. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

09-23-2008, 06:15 PM	#1098 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Dammit I forgot to mention Colin 'MY VOICE ONLY HAS TWO SETTINGS , LOUD AND REALLY FUCKING LOUD' Murray. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-23-2008, 06:46 PM	#1100 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	16 : Pete Doherty I can't remember who it was who referred to Pete Doherty as a 'moon faced cunt' , but it seemed to fit so well that I have called him that ever since I heard it. What I really don't understand about this whole thing with him is why he's regarded as some sort of song writing genius. I mean fucking hell have you HEARD a Babyshambles album? They sound no better than some pissed up pub band. I can't remember the first Babyshambles song I heard but to me it sounded like someone doing a Pulp song at a drunken karaoke. I mean don't get me wrong here , I own around 55 Fall albums ,If anyone can appreciate a piece of music written by a pisshead it's me , and I do think The Libertines debut album has some appeal to it, it's just very limited. That's why I only listen to it about once every 3 years. I find it tends to get old pretty quickly. I don't think Pete Doherty has anything particularly interesting to say , he's just a nice middle class boy acting the rock star using obvious targets to write about to appear deep and edgy , and people seem to fall for it. Let's face it if he wasn't out with supermodels and having a celebrity drug habit would anyone really care about some third rate Billy Bragg wannabe? I measure his contribution to music solo-wise to be as about as important as Donny Tourette. don't be fooled just because one sings cock rock and the other uses acoustic guitar and 'meaningful lyrics' that doesn't make the music any more substantial they're just as bad as each other. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-23-2008, 06:11 PM	#1095 (permalink)
Double X sleepe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: boston Posts: 1,140	Wow it's winding down and I was excited for learning #1...but now I just want it to continue. You need to make a Rant Thread or something...