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Old 07-23-2008, 02:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Clapton and Costello were both apparrently drunk when they made these statements, to be fair.

There was also something David Bowie said that set people off, but he's always been trying to offend people, and he married a black woman so ehhhhhhh...
Didn't he dress up Hitler-esque at some point and do salutes?
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Clapton and Costello were both apparrently drunk when they made these statements, to be fair.

There was also something David Bowie said that set people off, but he's always been trying to offend people, and he married a black woman so ehhhhhhh...
And I believe his current bassist is Gail Ann Dorsey.
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Clapton and Costello were both apparrently drunk when they made these statements, to be fair.
I really can't comment about Clapton (never heard of it before this thread, actually), but as far as Costello goes, not only was he drunk (and exhausted from a trying tour of the States), the whole incident was blown out of proportion by Rolling Stone mag, among others. Considering that Costello was greatly influenced by many black artists, I think it's pretty safe to assume that his comments really shouldn't have been taken as seriously as they were. The whole incident was something of an excuse for holier-than-thou journalists to have a few digs at the new "punk" kid.
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Jim Morrison was also a drunken racist.
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So yeah, todays lession is... a lot of great musicians are racists.

Oh and Morrissey too.
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So yeah, todays lession is... a lot of great musicians are racists.

Oh and Morrissey too.
Oh, shut up boo boo!

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Old 07-23-2008, 03:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Bah. That was just him being all shock rock.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It humours me how quick these artists go back on their statements, such as Morrissey's statement after his 'reggae is vile' rant.

It ruins their mystique as artists and shows them for the snivelling media hounds that they are. Racism is wrong, yes. But if you are racist, then don't go and ****ing pretend that you're not. And if you are then shut up about it for your own sake. And ESPECIALLY don't attempt to redeem yourself by suddenly spouting off little nuggets of information like 'but I've grown up with black music!!'

However I also think that some of his statements are true, and if he had not gone on to claim how (tongue in cheek or not) by law everything in the charts has to be black music, then I feel he would have had a feasible point of view. Not every form of racism is against black people...
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Why focus on black people though? Is he (and you) saying that white people dont make music that uses drum machines and autotune? Or is it only when black people use the technology is it a problem.
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