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07-23-2008, 02:36 PM | #41 (permalink) |
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So yeah, todays lession is... a lot of great musicians are racists.
Oh and Morrissey too. |
07-23-2008, 03:25 PM | #43 (permalink) |
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Bah. That was just him being all shock rock.
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07-23-2008, 04:50 PM | #44 (permalink) |
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It humours me how quick these artists go back on their statements, such as Morrissey's statement after his 'reggae is vile' rant.
It ruins their mystique as artists and shows them for the snivelling media hounds that they are. Racism is wrong, yes. But if you are racist, then don't go and ****ing pretend that you're not. And if you are then shut up about it for your own sake. And ESPECIALLY don't attempt to redeem yourself by suddenly spouting off little nuggets of information like 'but I've grown up with black music!!' However I also think that some of his statements are true, and if he had not gone on to claim how (tongue in cheek or not) by law everything in the charts has to be black music, then I feel he would have had a feasible point of view. Not every form of racism is against black people... |
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07-23-2008, 06:31 PM | #46 (permalink) |
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Cartman: Token, how many times do we have to go through this? You're black, you can play bass.
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07-24-2008, 06:01 AM | #47 (permalink) |
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I really can't comment about Clapton (never heard of it before this thread, actually), but as far as Costello goes, not only was he drunk (and exhausted from a trying tour of the States), the whole incident was blown out of proportion by Rolling Stone mag, among others. Considering that Costello was greatly influenced by many black artists, I think it's pretty safe to assume that his comments really shouldn't have been taken as seriously as they were. The whole incident was something of an excuse for holier-than-thou journalists to have a few digs at the new "punk" kid.
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06-03-2011, 01:18 PM | #48 (permalink) | |
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What he meant by 'black music is vile' was that too much modern black music is over-dependent on modern technology which takes away the magic of raw talent and that pissed off his musical sensibilities. It is still true today - look at how many modern black artists rely on electronic fakery like drum machines, auto-tune and sequencing instead of REAL instruments like guitars, piano, brass and acoustic drums. The blacks invented some of the greatest contemporary music styles like jazz, blues, rhythm & blues, soul, gospel, funk, as well as the Motown and Atlantic soul stuff. Today they waste their time with karaokeized **** about drugs, promiscuous girls and how tough and cool they are. BOOOORING! Bring back more organic music back into the Top 40 and give the electronic **** a rest! |
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06-03-2011, 01:41 PM | #49 (permalink) |
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Why focus on black people though? Is he (and you) saying that white people dont make music that uses drum machines and autotune? Or is it only when black people use the technology is it a problem.
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06-03-2011, 05:00 PM | #50 (permalink) | |
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Relevant? No. To be honest, as much as I generally dislike white power music due to it's atrocious sound, and the fact it's used to fund violent organizations. Music should be allowed freedom of speech above all.
I do NOT like white power music that is used to fund the killing of Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, or Homosexuals. I find it vile, and horrible. However, if somebody who makes music is racist or writes racist lyrics, who gives a ****? It's the free world, after all, and all is fair in art. I'd even go so far as say let it on MTV as long as the music is good enough. I mean, we already have to deal with misogyny nearly to the point of rape fantasy in ****ty music.
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