The Definitve List: Most Overrated Bands\Artists ever (country, metal)

Crowe · 07-06-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Are you for cereal?

Just because the Raconteurs draw heavily from blues rock legends like Led Zeppelin doesn't make them utter trash. Anyways, it's preferable to the huge alternative rock sweep that goes across the radiowaves nowadays.

And I'm gonna repeat: it was never about the simplicity of their music that makes The White Stripes overrated. It's about the terrible rhythm section - if you wanna call it "rawness" so be it but it doesn't make Meg White any better at the drums. I'm all for keeping music simple and not overengineering the sound, but I can't tolerate listening to consistently trashy drums on EVERY SINGLE ALBUM. She sounds no better on Icky Thump than their s/t, when it was her first experience on drums.

They are overrated because people confuse her poor rhythm skills for simplicity. Simplicity I can deal with. But Meg White - Meg simply sounds like a child who got hold of her mother's kitchen utensils. And no matter what, you can't deny what a burden it is to listen to someone that bad on drums for as long as The White Stripes have been popular.

Or is it really that you are confusing her simplicity for poor rhythm skills? The argument can go both ways. However, I see it as her simplicity exists out of a lack of formal teaching. She knows what she can and can't do. So does Jack. She doesn't try to to anything she can't.

And... yes I -can- deny that because I have been listening to The White Stripes since they have been popular, and before they were popular... not only can I bear it, but it is something that I enjoy.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-06-2008, 07:30 PM

15. The Eagles

Most Overrated Album: Desperado
Most Overrated song: Witchy Woman\Take it Easy

There is nothing blatantly bad or objectionable about the Eagles. They don't suck totally, they are not pompous or arrogant, they even have a few real good albums, however they have a way of annoying people (especially me) that is matched or exceeded only by their fans. A lot of Eagles fans feel like the Eagles were the Beatles of the 70's and while shockingly, record sales are comparable, in terms of influence, impact and creativity it's like arguing that a lemon is sweeter then an apple.

The Eagles have a nice safe mellow sort of groove to their music it's not country, it's not blues, it's not rock and roll, it's what guys my age (apx 50) who were cargo shorts, open toed sandals and Sunglasses at night listen to. When's the last time you seen some kid rush into a record store and buy a crisp new copy of "Hotel California" or "The Long Ru"n. It's mostly because the Eagles are lame, but even if they wanted to hear the Eagles all you need to is turn on Classic Rock radio and wait until Stairway to Heaven finishes and surely an Eagles tune will pop up.

a brief personal note...

My son had a private bar tending Business in college and worked a party at a clients home who had a juke box installed in his basement\bar it had nine Eagles albums in it out of 25 total. My son, who was a pretty well known musician in the area gets pulled aside by this guy after the party and sat down and made to listen to the entire brand new "Long Road out of Eden" album. He came home and took a rape shower. That guy usually wears Cargo shorts and sandals.

...

Most egregious of all is what they did after they initial break-up in 1980. Amongst the crimes against music they commited:

Don Henley: Leather and Lace, Dirty Laundry and All she wants to do is Dance.

Glenn Frye: Party Town, Sexy Girl and The Heat is On.

and don't get started on hell freezes over.

Without Joe Walsh I'd have put a hit out on this group by now. And that if nothing else makes the the 15th most overrated band\artist of all-time.

Crowe · 07-06-2008, 09:46 PM

Beautiful write up on the Eagles, mate. I can't stand them - my roommate loves Hotel California et al... blech. Boring is right. And you are right on the money with Joe Walsh. Rocky Mountain Way is in my Top 150 favorite songs. Maybe Top 100 if I'm feeling nostalgic.

Beany · 07-07-2008, 08:19 AM

I like the Eagles. Great mellow band to stick on when in a certain mood. Maybe they're over rated in the States but I don't think they are over here in Europe.

lucifer_sam · 07-07-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Beany

I like the Eagles. Great mellow band to stick on when in a certain mood. Maybe they're over rated in the States but I don't think they are over here in Europe.

It's pretty much spot on like JayJamJah told it. I'm not in his generation, but my father is, and from what he tells me he spent half his life trying to convince people that the Eagles weren't that good.

I honestly can't wait for the Dave Matthews Band review. He is the single most overrated artist in my generation.

FaSho · 07-07-2008, 01:33 PM

I Hate To bring the white stripes/racontuers argument back up but...

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

The Raconteurs are nothing more than boring retro classic rock pleasing rubbish. I gave them a chance but I became so bored I stopped bothering.

And why shouldn't Meg White play drums. Did punk rock not teach us anything? I don't want a Neal fucking Peart clone in every band. That rawness and simplicity is what makes the White Stripes work.
Maybe Mo Tucker shouldn't have bothered either.

i agree with what you said about meg white because people who don't listen to the white stripes for the lyrics listen to it FOR THEIR SIMPLICITY

but what you said about the racanteurs is ****!
I mean come on just because they don't please the hordes of brain-dead ****-sucking pop radio whores doesn't mean its "rubbish" it's great indie music and if you got bored from it thats probably because you're to busy trying to make them live up to the white stripes standards you don't actually see that the musics good even if it isn't like the white stripes!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-07-2008, 02:38 PM

I don't compare them to anybody , I take them for what they are and find them dull ... sorry.

Next time they make an album i'll drop a few firecrackers down my pants & see if that livens up my listening experience. just for you.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-07-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Next time they make an album i'll drop a few firecrackers down my pants & see if that livens up my listening experience. just for you.

Is that a sort of tip off the cap to America in homage to recent Independence Day holiday.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-07-2008, 02:52 PM

You mean you all drop firecrackers down your pants on that day?

Consider me visiting for that day next year

Son of JayJamJah · 07-07-2008, 05:21 PM

14. Garth Brooks

Most Overrated Album: Sevens
Most Overrated song: Two Pina Coladas

So as I figured and has been confirmed, those of you in the UK can tune out, for the rest of us, remember how effing huge this guy was circa 1992-1994. Garth Brooks at one point had a #1 record that outside all nine of the remaining top 10 combined. Not on the country charts, on the billboard pop charts. He was even #1 in the UK Country charts (they have those) And this was not undeserved, his first five albums are very good, and I am not a big country music fan at all. Here's the problem, somewhere around 1995 when he was swinging into the audience on a rope while performing live in prime time on national TV a concert in Central Park, he must have hit his head or something.

His next album, "Fresh Horses" was by his standards a flop. It was the first album not to top the pop charts since "No Fences" just 18 months into his career. My wife having been a fan bought, I bought her the album, and we both reacted the same way, kind of like okay wheres the rest. Then came "Sevens" which was hyped as a great comeback album and it was commercially. It was again the #1 record in the US regardless of genre. But the content is exactly the type of thing that turns mainstream music fans off to country music. Mindless twang in a predictable petty circle. Rock bottom right? Not even close.............Enter Chris Gaines...Brooks takes on the persona of "Gaines" and releases an Alternative Rock album. No I am not making this up. Now this could be daring or creative or well at least interesting except here's the catch. It's not Brooks idea, it's for a movie (that never happened) and he doesn't write the songs (he typically co-wrote his country songs), and it's obvious. It's so lame I cringe when i hear it.

So the album bombs and Brooks left turn lovin' fans are confused, where'd our Garth go? Then he makes an announcement, times are tough and when the going gets tough the tough...retire? Well that's what he did. No more music he said, and he meant it, well except the part where he made another horrible record that was so Country it came with a straw hat and blue jeans and capitalized on the millions it rained down on him. A very wise person who once slept on my couch for a couple weeks told me something very profound "It takes balls to play music" he said, Garth for all your failings, more then any it's your lack of balls that get you ranked as the 14th most overrated artist in music history.

07-06-2008, 07:30 PM	#72 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	15. The Eagles Most Overrated Album: Desperado Most Overrated song: Witchy Woman\Take it Easy There is nothing blatantly bad or objectionable about the Eagles. They don't suck totally, they are not pompous or arrogant, they even have a few real good albums, however they have a way of annoying people (especially me) that is matched or exceeded only by their fans. A lot of Eagles fans feel like the Eagles were the Beatles of the 70's and while shockingly, record sales are comparable, in terms of influence, impact and creativity it's like arguing that a lemon is sweeter then an apple. The Eagles have a nice safe mellow sort of groove to their music it's not country, it's not blues, it's not rock and roll, it's what guys my age (apx 50) who were cargo shorts, open toed sandals and Sunglasses at night listen to. When's the last time you seen some kid rush into a record store and buy a crisp new copy of "Hotel California" or "The Long Ru"n. It's mostly because the Eagles are lame, but even if they wanted to hear the Eagles all you need to is turn on Classic Rock radio and wait until Stairway to Heaven finishes and surely an Eagles tune will pop up. a brief personal note... My son had a private bar tending Business in college and worked a party at a clients home who had a juke box installed in his basement\bar it had nine Eagles albums in it out of 25 total. My son, who was a pretty well known musician in the area gets pulled aside by this guy after the party and sat down and made to listen to the entire brand new "Long Road out of Eden" album. He came home and took a rape shower. That guy usually wears Cargo shorts and sandals. ... Most egregious of all is what they did after they initial break-up in 1980. Amongst the crimes against music they commited: Don Henley: Leather and Lace, Dirty Laundry and All she wants to do is Dance. Glenn Frye: Party Town, Sexy Girl and The Heat is On. and don't get started on hell freezes over. Without Joe Walsh I'd have put a hit out on this group by now. And that if nothing else makes the the 15th most overrated band\artist of all-time. Last edited by Son of JayJamJah; 07-07-2008 at 01:59 PM.

07-06-2008, 09:46 PM	#73 (permalink)
Crowe Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 699	Beautiful write up on the Eagles, mate. I can't stand them - my roommate loves Hotel California et al... blech. Boring is right. And you are right on the money with Joe Walsh. Rocky Mountain Way is in my Top 150 favorite songs. Maybe Top 100 if I'm feeling nostalgic. __________________

07-07-2008, 08:19 AM	#74 (permalink)
Beany Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 58	I like the Eagles. Great mellow band to stick on when in a certain mood. Maybe they're over rated in the States but I don't think they are over here in Europe. __________________ Well I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk

07-07-2008, 02:38 PM	#77 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I don't compare them to anybody , I take them for what they are and find them dull ... sorry. Next time they make an album i'll drop a few firecrackers down my pants & see if that livens up my listening experience. just for you. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

07-07-2008, 02:52 PM	#79 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	You mean you all drop firecrackers down your pants on that day? Consider me visiting for that day next year __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

07-07-2008, 05:21 PM	#80 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Garth Brooks 14. Garth Brooks Most Overrated Album: Sevens Most Overrated song: Two Pina Coladas So as I figured and has been confirmed, those of you in the UK can tune out, for the rest of us, remember how effing huge this guy was circa 1992-1994. Garth Brooks at one point had a #1 record that outside all nine of the remaining top 10 combined. Not on the country charts, on the billboard pop charts. He was even #1 in the UK Country charts (they have those) And this was not undeserved, his first five albums are very good, and I am not a big country music fan at all. Here's the problem, somewhere around 1995 when he was swinging into the audience on a rope while performing live in prime time on national TV a concert in Central Park, he must have hit his head or something. His next album, "Fresh Horses" was by his standards a flop. It was the first album not to top the pop charts since "No Fences" just 18 months into his career. My wife having been a fan bought, I bought her the album, and we both reacted the same way, kind of like okay wheres the rest. Then came "Sevens" which was hyped as a great comeback album and it was commercially. It was again the #1 record in the US regardless of genre. But the content is exactly the type of thing that turns mainstream music fans off to country music. Mindless twang in a predictable petty circle. Rock bottom right? Not even close.............Enter Chris Gaines...Brooks takes on the persona of "Gaines" and releases an Alternative Rock album. No I am not making this up. Now this could be daring or creative or well at least interesting except here's the catch. It's not Brooks idea, it's for a movie (that never happened) and he doesn't write the songs (he typically co-wrote his country songs), and it's obvious. It's so lame I cringe when i hear it. So the album bombs and Brooks left turn lovin' fans are confused, where'd our Garth go? Then he makes an announcement, times are tough and when the going gets tough the tough...retire? Well that's what he did. No more music he said, and he meant it, well except the part where he made another horrible record that was so Country it came with a straw hat and blue jeans and capitalized on the millions it rained down on him. A very wise person who once slept on my couch for a couple weeks told me something very profound "It takes balls to play music" he said, Garth for all your failings, more then any it's your lack of balls that get you ranked as the 14th most overrated artist in music history.