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06-29-2008, 10:59 PM | #11 (permalink) |
isfckingdead
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All these bands are overrated but I feel I should argue some of these even if they're obviously tongue in cheek. Some of these statements are shockingly ignorant.
I don't really feel the Doors are overrated. I think Jim Morrison is overrated, he wasn't even a good lyricist yet he's called 'An American Poet' or whatever the nick name is. I mean Krieger was an excellent guitarist who is hardly ever discussed and Manzarek could be the most underrated keyboardist ever. Musically they were extremely cohesive and solid yet all anyone cares about is the Lizard King which is bullshit seeing as Jim wasn't that great and he was a disgusting human being. I don't think John Lennon's music post-beatles sucked, Imagine is iconic and Jealous Guy, Grow Old With Me, songs like those have a raw and simplistic beauty to them that the Beatles rarely touched. I mean sure you had alot of Woman is the ****** of the World dated political songs that didn't age well but all the Beatles were guilty of forgettable tracks during their solo career. The Rolling Stones released a handful of great albums and were an extremely important band who deserve to be included in the same sentence as the Beatles, The Who and Led Zeppelin. Just because they didn't have a timely break up doesn't mean we should ignore every good thing they did for music. Nirvana? Are you serious? You're aware how huge they were during their prime right? It was Nirvanamania, they were the biggest band in the world. If Kurt Cobain hadn't died he probably wouldn't have been elevated to the status he was elevated to that's it. Smells Like Teen Spirit alone had so much more impact and success than Alice in Chains or Soundgarden could've ever hoped for. That statement was totally stupid.
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06-30-2008, 04:26 AM | #17 (permalink) | |
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I don't know whether The Doors, John Lennon, The Rolling Stones & Eminem could be considered overrated or not.(although i do kinda agree a bit with The Rolling Stones & Eminem) The rest, I just haven't listened to enough to pass a comment. Last edited by Demonoid; 06-30-2008 at 04:34 AM. |
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06-30-2008, 04:56 AM | #18 (permalink) | |
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Hehe good thread! Of course i don't agree with all of them but never mind. I want to see your statement on Mariah Carey. I don't see why she's number 1, i think it's an american thing, i don't think anyone really cares about her over here.
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06-30-2008, 12:21 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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20. Radiohead
Most Overrated Album: OK Computer, it's great but not their best. Most Overrated song: Paranoid Android As I hinted at in my intro, I didn’t like putting Radiohead on my list. They pop up occasionally online as overrated but rarely is any sort of compelling case made. It’s usually something like; “they suck, get over it”, this will not do. But after having some more thoughtful discussions with some more seasoned music minds, it became painstakingly clear that Radiohead were not only over rated but actually have redefined overrated in the modern era. The problem is beyond the control of the band. They just continue to make consistently good music with innovative marketing, production and performances. They never claim to be great nor grandiose, they just make music. However they are the victims of an MTV culture. The problem for Radiohead is that it’s cool to like Radiohead. This sounds good on the surface but as you come to realize with age, a lot of times when you don’t like people, you don’t want them to like you either. People who have listened to Karma Police three times (twice covered by some chick with an acoustic guitar) claim to be “huge” Radiohead fans. No one dares say Radiohead made a mediocre album, **Cough** Amnesiac **Cough**. When all is said and done they may not be overrated, but as for now they are very much overrated by people who have not even given them a fair listen and that lands them at #20, plus it’s a lot more controversial then most other choices I considered for this spot. |
06-30-2008, 12:45 PM | #20 (permalink) |
The Sexual Intellectual
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I'll give you my thoughts of your list (Including Van Halen)
21. Van Halen - I do find a delicious irony in the fact that everybody kisses Eddie Van Halens ass about how great a guitarist he is yet as soon as the guy who can't even hold a tune leaves the band they turn to shit. A perfect example as to why all these people who go on & on & on about the 'Technicality' of the guitarist are talking out of their asses. 20. Radiohead - A couple of years ago I would have said you were insane. Now i'd agree with you. I think it's obvious (to me anyway) Radiohead are on the slide. I'm not saying they're bad , far from it. I just think the last couple of albums have been average. I think they've become predictable which is always a bad thing when your known for taking risks. I know thousands will disagree but I think sometime over the next couple of albums they're going to release an absolute stinker of a record. 19. The Grateful Dead - Never heard a single song by them 18. Snoop Dogg - I see him as a celebrity more than anything. I don't think I can remember a single song by him. 17. Coldplay - Don't even get me started on this bunch of whinging public schoolboy bores. 16. The Doors - Solid band but Morrison gets far too much credit 15. The Eagles - URGH! 70s soft rock , My idea of rock n roll hell 14. Garth Brooks - File under nobody outside the U.S. gives a flying fuck 13. John Lennon(post-Beatles) - Don't really know enough to comment other than a couple of singles. He did Fame with David Bowie , that was alright. 12. Eminem - Churning out the same old shit since the late 90s. the AC/DC of hip hop. 11. Kanye West - Typical MTV pop rapper they all sound the same to me. 10. The Rolling Stones - Done with this subject. 9. Nirvana - I'm no Nirvana lover but to put them in the same bracket as shitty bland no hopers like Alice In Chains is just cruel. 8. 2 PAC - I liked a couple of singles of course the hero worship now he's dead is annoying but he did pave the way for a lot of artists. Shame most of them were crap though. 7. Kiss - I love it how people slag off Kiss and then say they like the New York Dolls. I'm going to be contoversial now and say I loved their disco period. You're right though , couldn't care less about them now. 6. Dave Matthews Band - See 14 5. White Stripes - What's wrong with having simple riffs? How come nobody slags off Muddy Waters or Bo Diddley for the same reason? 4. Prince - Sounding timeless is a good thing as far as i'm concerned. He's released some real dross but he also made some of the best pop records ever. I think he's more than worthy of the credit he gets. 3. Bruce Springsteen - I've never been a fan of Americana or whatever it's called. Give me some blues or soul over this any day . 2. U2 - Should be number one #1!!!!!!!!! Mariah Carey - What's the point in having a great voice if you sing mindless dross. Mind you it was kinda funny when she went mental. Wouldn't put her as number one because I can't actually remember anyone rating her , And I just ignore her anyway.
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