The Passion In Music Discussion (dance, albums, beatles, Ringo)

boo boo · 06-23-2008, 02:49 PM

So you're basically saying it all has to do with note selection.

TheBig3 · 06-23-2008, 02:52 PM

Do all of your posts start this way?

I did say it has to do with note selection. Read the post over.

TheBig3 · 06-23-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I lot of musicians who seem to really enjoy what they do are still accused of having no passion.

Thats way I think of it as little more than just a very pretentious way of trying to discredit music you don't like.

Now who around here does that?

boo boo · 06-23-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Now who around here does that?

You.

jackhammer · 06-23-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

So you're basically saying it all has to do with note selection.

No he was saying how the note is played and how it is inflected. Gilmour being a perfect example. You have said that he is not very technical (which is true) but he can hold a note-his passion overrides his technical skill.

WaspStar · 06-23-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Passion is how a note is played, a word is sung, and an arrangement changes to meet the needs of the moment. Its got nothing to do with what the intentions were behind creating it, its got to do with knowing a song as a living breathing thing. To rehearse a song to the Nth degree because you’re never satisfied, to change the feel of a song from night to night as Dylan does because you’re always searching for something more. When you become enveloped by the music and the other musicians are in tune with each other and everyone can turn on a dime because their not going on a planned pattern of attack their going on the sound at that moment. That’s passion, and I can’t explain it much better. You froth at the mouth, you bleed from the eyes, and you are ten pounds lighted from the amount you’ve sweat. Even if you’re playing lounge jazz.

Very well said.

Here's a quote from Clinton Heylin's Bootleg that pretty much says the same thing:

"Bootleg punters are looking for something that is locked into the wellspring of inspiration, and the beauty of the musical interplay that rock music allows is that just such a moment can sneak up on you real quick and unexpected - and just as quickly be gone. Those magical moments are always live - even when they happen in the studio. They do not happen when you get that click-track just right. They do not happen when the bass has to be overdubbed because towards the end of a take the bassist gets so into it that he begins to drown out the guitarist. They can be found on the Velvet Undergroun's studio version of Sister Ray; pretty much any live version of Television's Marquee Moon; indeed, they can happen anytime you put great musicians together and get them to play some songs. It's called rock and roll and it's why people who saw the Sex Pistols live went out and formed bands. And it's to be found as easily in the off-key harmonies on Anarchy In The UK as in the (oops, quick) tempo change in the intro to "It's A Man's World."

boo boo · 06-23-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

No he was saying how the note is played and how it is inflected. Gilmour being a perfect example. You have said that he is not very technical (which is true) but he can hold a note-his passion overrides his technical skill.

He just has a great ear. I wouldn't say he puts more passion into his work than say Ritchie Blackmore just because his playing sounds more emotional.

jackhammer · 06-23-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

He just has a great ear. I wouldn't say he puts more passion into his work than say Ritchie Blackmore just because his playing sounds more emotional.

So you are admitting that he SOUNDS more emotional?

TheBig3 · 06-23-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

You.

Would you please show me where I've said someone has ****ty musical taste because they liked a band that wasn't passionate. Just because you don't like me doesn't mean you can toss out baseless bull****.

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

No he was saying how the note is played and how it is inflected. Gilmour being a perfect example. You have said that he is not very technical (which is true) but he can hold a note-his passion overrides his technical skill.

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So you are admitting that he SOUNDS more emotional?

Thank you jackhammer. I'm aware I'm not the darling of the boards, but I think its fair to ask that when I put an obvious effort into something, its not just passed off with snarky one-lines in a vain attempt to discredit a valid opinion.

Son of JayJamJah · 06-23-2008, 07:51 PM

Anybody see a wall i could beat my head against?

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