The Case For/ The Case Against.. (blues, funk, instrumental, jazz)

WaspStar · 06-19-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

I don't think raw passion and meticulous craftsmanship are mutually exclusive. Sgt. Peppers contains both as well as ground breaking effects and affects both.

No, they don't have to be mutually exclusive, but they usually are. I don't think there's much raw passion on latter day Beatles records. Please Please Me and A Hard Day's Night still explode with an amazing energy. After that...I'd say they started trading excitement for polish. Not that it's a zero-sum proposition, but in their case, I think it was.

Son of JayJamJah · 06-19-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar

No, they don't have to be mutually exclusive, but they usually are. I don't think there's much raw passion on latter day Beatles records. Please Please Me and A Hard Day's Night still explode with an amazing energy. After that...I'd say they started trading excitement for polish. Not that it's a zero-sum proposition, but in their case, I think it was.

Would you consider Abbey Road an exception? I mean "something" is riddled with emotion and the medley is completely driven by it.

Rainard Jalen · 06-20-2008, 10:13 AM

I agree. Later Beatles is very limited in terms of real moments of raw passion. Harrison contributed a few of the more soulful tracks. You always do get the general feeling that McCartney is all about polish even from the early days. Lennon in some ways was probably the most sincere in terms of his songwriting.

With that said, I don't think there's anything wrong with being about polish rather than passion. Aside from that it was the inevitable result of their hearts not really being fully committed to the band and the overtaking of egos.

06-20-2008, 10:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	I agree. Later Beatles is very limited in terms of real moments of raw passion. Harrison contributed a few of the more soulful tracks. You always do get the general feeling that McCartney is all about polish even from the early days. Lennon in some ways was probably the most sincere in terms of his songwriting. With that said, I don't think there's anything wrong with being about polish rather than passion. Aside from that it was the inevitable result of their hearts not really being fully committed to the band and the overtaking of egos.