The Official Radiohead Thread

[MoonlitSunshine]

Originally Posted by IamTimmeh

I hope you realize, this entire site is to discuss noise. There's only one song I can name that doesn't have noise in it, and even such song, can be called noise. And no, I probably couldn't listen to your abstract jazz for more than a couple minutes. Why should I be forced to? I prefer tonality and tranquility in a piece. Is that really so bad? I admitted my mistake in calling Radiohead Avant Garde. I also said I don't really like avant garde that much either. Or free jazz, or any music without a definite structure to it. And no I don't want to argue over what structure means. Different strokes for different folks, eh?

*nerd glasses*

Actually, noise is definied physically as a collection of unrelated frequencies, whereas tones or chords as evident in radiohead's music (among most other artists), are most certainly related, and thus cannot be simply classified as noise.

[clutnuckle]

Originally Posted by Zero1986

Lol at this post

Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine

*nerd glasses*

Actually, noise is definied physically as a collection of unrelated frequencies, whereas tones or chords as evident in radiohead's music (among most other artists), are most certainly related, and thus cannot be simply classified as noise.

You guys beat me to it...

I could dissect the post myself, but to be honest, I'll just say this:

Go ahead, like whatever Radiohead albums you want to. Dislike their angular material for whatever reasons you want to. But honestly, if your only retorts for why are these toddler-level comebacks like 'they're avant-garde' or 'i prefer tonality and tranquility', why even post? They don't inherit discussion; they're boring opinions that soccer moms have about music, and they just block off any retort. If I were to say ANYTHING negative about it now, you could just say "DUDE I HAVE MY OPINION BACK OFF MAN" (which you've kind of already done; in which case, why did you bring it up in the first place? To get props?).

If you're not willing to tackle music with an open mind (ie. "Hey, this song isn't playing with a melody, but maybe I could find positivity in it anyhow and not banish all of it and music like it to an alternate dimension..."), I don't see the point in frequenting a forum. By narrowing your horizons, you're just shutting yourself off of brilliant music.

Which is all fine; do what you will and the more power to you... I hope I'm not coming across as too rude, I just see this thing around far too often.

[IamTimmeh]

Originally Posted by clutnuckle

You guys beat me to it...

I could dissect the post myself, but to be honest, I'll just say this:

Go ahead, like whatever Radiohead albums you want to. Dislike their angular material for whatever reasons you want to. But honestly, if your only retorts for why are these toddler-level comebacks like 'they're avant-garde' or 'i prefer tonality and tranquility', why even post? They don't inherit discussion; they're boring opinions that soccer moms have about music, and they just block off any retort. If I were to say ANYTHING negative about it now, you could just say "DUDE I HAVE MY OPINION BACK OFF MAN" (which you've kind of already done; in which case, why did you bring it up in the first place? To get props?).

If you're not willing to tackle music with an open mind (ie. "Hey, this song isn't playing with a melody, but maybe I could find positivity in it anyhow and not banish all of it and music like it to an alternate dimension..."), I don't see the point in frequenting a forum. By narrowing your horizons, you're just shutting yourself off of brilliant music.

Which is all fine; do what you will and the more power to you... I hope I'm not coming across as too rude, I just see this thing around far too often.

Well I didn't want to offend anyone. I know my opinion is bland. I'm sorry for wasting your time. I can normally find something positive about anything, but when I have to remind myself more than I'm actually listening to the music, why bother? I know music is just, basically, tension and release. But too much tension starts to get on my nerves. I know music with too much release is boring, but it's also relaxing to me. If I want to go and crack a complicated song, I do it every once in awhile when I get bored. Most of the time, the songs I examine that I didn't like at first I end up liking a lot. Songs that I liked at first, I take a second look and I stop liking them so much.

I understand your concern, but my point got across, even if it wasn't especially politically correct, I don't know why there was any need for insulting my intelligence.. Just I believe in a balance in music. If there's too much dissonance without any release I start to get... on edge. That may be what Radiohead was going for when they wrote National Anthem (atleast to me, there's a lot of dissonance) but I can't stand being on edge for too long. Music is relaxing to me, I like thinking about the times and the chords and singing along. I dunno, I guess I have the musical taste buds of a soccer mom.

[clutnuckle]

Originally Posted by IamTimmeh

Well I didn't want to offend anyone. I know my opinion is bland. I'm sorry for wasting your time. I can normally find something positive about anything, but when I have to remind myself more than I'm actually listening to the music, why bother? I know music is just, basically, tension and release. But too much tension starts to get on my nerves. I know music with too much release is boring, but it's also relaxing to me. If I want to go and crack a complicated song, I do it every once in awhile when I get bored. Most of the time, the songs I examine that I didn't like at first I end up liking a lot. Songs that I liked at first, I take a second look and I stop liking them so much.

I understand your concern, but my point got across, even if it wasn't especially politically correct, I don't know why there was any need for insulting my intelligence.. Just I believe in a balance in music. If there's too much dissonance without any release I start to get... on edge. That may be what Radiohead was going for when they wrote National Anthem (atleast to me, there's a lot of dissonance) but I can't stand being on edge for too long. Music is relaxing to me, I like thinking about the times and the chords and singing along. I dunno, I guess I have the musical taste buds of a soccer mom.

This I can understand.

And I didn't mean you were a soccer mom... I just meant... You have the opinion of a so-

I have dug myself a hole.

[IamTimmeh]

Originally Posted by clutnuckle

This I can understand.

And I didn't mean you were a soccer mom... I just meant... You have the opinion of a so-

I have dug myself a hole.

Hahah, it's completely fine. No hard feelings. At least I never said my favorite song is "Creep". Then I'd be the complete soccer mom.

[METAShift]

Originally Posted by clutnuckle

I could dissect the post myself, but to be honest, I'll just say this:

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I have to admit, this was one of the best comebacks to the generic music argument about complex music and the whole "Just IMO" crap.