Where is the line between sell-out and talentless nobodies? (indie, pop)

sleepy jack · 04-09-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

Well, if you're talking about Oomph, they don't manufacture pens and lighters and there's nothing wrong with pens and lighters and lanyards any way. Need something to write with, and start grills with and so forth.

What are you talking about? They manufacture that stuff it's on there website, I showed you pictures.

~~Oomph!~~ · 04-09-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

What are you talking about? They manufacture that stuff it's on there website, I showed you pictures.

The BAND doesn't thier label does.

sleepy jack · 04-09-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

The BAND doesn't thier label does.

And they signed the contract giving their label permission. Quit trying to hide the fact your favorite band is nothing but a bunch of corporate whores just like the ones you claim to be "rebelling against."

~~Oomph!~~ · 04-09-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

And they signed the contract giving their label permission. Quit trying to hide the fact your favorite band is nothing but a bunch of corporate whores just like the ones you claim to be "rebelling against."

Only because the label wouldn't sign them (any label or any band) if they refused to let them sell merch. And you know what, the people who work at the record company, the people who work at the factory that manufactures the CDs, they all need to feed thier family too it isn't that big of a deal. At least they aren't compromising thier sound, the pens and t-shirts do not invariably mean they are selling out.

Rainard Jalen · 04-09-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

Only because the label wouldn't sign them if they refused to let them sell merch.

LMFAO! So in other words, they sold out in order to get a recoding contract.

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

(any label or any band)

Wrong. Plenty of tiny labels would be perfectly happy to have a commercially viable band like Oomph on their register on condition that no merchandise would be sold. Oomph had the option of being on a tiny underground label. Instead they went for the big corporate one and sold out.

~~Oomph!~~ · 04-09-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

LMFAO! So in other words, they sold out in order to get a recoding contract.

Hahaha...........no.

Rainard Jalen · 04-09-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

Hahaha...........no.

No, what? It's just what you said. They couldn't stop the merchandize or they wouldn't have got a contract. So, they sold their souls to make a record.

sleepy jack · 04-09-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

Only because the label wouldn't sign them (any label or any band) if they refused to let them sell merch. And you know what, the people who work at the record company, the people who work at the factory that manufactures the CDs, they all need to feed thier family too it isn't that big of a deal. At least they aren't compromising thier sound, the pens and t-shirts do not invariably mean they are selling out.

You really need to stop making up things and pulling facts (lies) out of your ass when you have no argument and you've been proven to be a complete hypocrite. It doesn't make you look good.

sleepy jack · 04-09-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

You aren't doing any better friend.

I've been using logic and sources and expanding upon my statements. You have not, it's pretty sad that just using their website and rateyourmusic I've managed to tell you more about your favorite band than you've told anyone. Do you have any sources to back up your entire statement I quoted? Because until then the hold thing reeks of made up argument to me. You're stumbling over your own contradictions.

~~Oomph!~~ · 04-09-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I've been using logic and sources and expanding upon my statements.

The ONLY thing you have 'sourced' is a few little pens and t shirts. And I explained already how pens and t-shirts does mean a band is selling out or compromising thier sound.

And we aren't here to file a report or write a term paper, it's supposed to be opinion and deduction and observation/experience.

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You have not, it's pretty sad that just using their website and rateyourmusic I've managed to tell you more about your favorite band than you've told anyone.

What the f*** do you know? That they sell pens? How many of thier songs have you heard? And if any which ones?

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Do you have any sources to back up your entire statement I quoted? Because until then the hold thing reeks of made up argument to me. You're stumbling over your own contradictions.

It's an adobe file or whatever
http://www.texasheritagemusic.org/sp...as%201.pdf

It says that the record company owns the music completely and expects the band to sell merchandise (they essentially have a quota and if you don't pay them they take everything from you until you do), the band has little to no choice.

Essentially, the band technically has the right to not sell merchandise, but if they don't thier lives are going to be raped which really means it's not that much of a choice. The companies expect a lot of money and it will rarely be fulfilled without selling merch.