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Son of JayJamJah 04-09-2008 02:30 PM

somewhere between Dave Grohl and Bono

Oomph! 04-09-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 466371)
What are you talking about? They manufacture that stuff it's on there website, I showed you pictures.

The BAND doesn't thier label does.

sleepy jack 04-09-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph! (Post 466427)
The BAND doesn't thier label does.

And they signed the contract giving their label permission. Quit trying to hide the fact your favorite band is nothing but a bunch of corporate whores just like the ones you claim to be "rebelling against."

Rainard Jalen 04-09-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph! (Post 466427)
The BAND doesn't thier label does.

So what? They're sell-outs for signing with a major label who cultivate them and their image, and instruct them on what they have to put out, when they need to release their next album, etc.

But sorry, the question is where is the line between sell-outs and talentless nobodies. I think Oomph straddle the line pretty well: other than being sell-outs, on the basis of what I've heard they seem to excel in the talentless-nobodies department too :laughing:

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-09-2008 04:12 PM

In a lot of cases merchandise deals are done separate from record deals and bands tend to have much more control over them.
So if they're selling lighters and lanyards on their own webpage that suggests to me the band put it there themselves.

Oomph! 04-09-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 466430)
And they signed the contract giving their label permission. Quit trying to hide the fact your favorite band is nothing but a bunch of corporate whores just like the ones you claim to be "rebelling against."

Only because the label wouldn't sign them (any label or any band) if they refused to let them sell merch. And you know what, the people who work at the record company, the people who work at the factory that manufactures the CDs, they all need to feed thier family too it isn't that big of a deal. At least they aren't compromising thier sound, the pens and t-shirts do not invariably mean they are selling out.

Rainard Jalen 04-09-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph! (Post 466448)
Only because the label wouldn't sign them if they refused to let them sell merch.

LMFAO! So in other words, they sold out in order to get a recoding contract. :laughing:

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Originally Posted by Oomph!
(any label or any band)

Wrong. Plenty of tiny labels would be perfectly happy to have a commercially viable band like Oomph on their register on condition that no merchandise would be sold. Oomph had the option of being on a tiny underground label. Instead they went for the big corporate one and sold out.

Oomph! 04-09-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 466432)
So what? They're sell-outs for signing with a major label who cultivate them and their image, and instruct them on what they have to put out, when they need to release their next album, etc.

They don't have an 'image', they have a name and that's about the extent of it.

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But sorry, the question is where is the line between sell-outs and talentless nobodies. I think Oomph straddle the line pretty well: other than being sell-outs, on the basis of what I've heard they seem to excel in the talentless-nobodies department too :laughing:
:finger:

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-09-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph! (Post 466450)
They don't have an 'image', they have a name and that's about the extent of it.

Which is plastered over pens , lighters , lanyards & car stickers

Oomph! 04-09-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 466449)
LMFAO! So in other words, they sold out in order to get a recoding contract. :laughing:

Hahaha...........no.


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