Where is the line between sell-out and talentless nobodies? (alternative, country)

~~Oomph!~~ · 04-04-2008, 06:48 PM

If a band is too popular they are corporate sell outs, but if they aren't popular enough it seems they are losers, nobodies. Where is that perfect spot between them? Everyone wants thier band to be liked and heard, but no body wants thier band to be commercialized pop idols either (for the most part)

sleepy jack · 04-04-2008, 06:53 PM

Um, you stay away from being either and just make music you like...

SATCHMO · 04-04-2008, 07:04 PM

There's nothing wrong with not being popular. I know lots of bands who have purposely evaded commercial success for the sake of making music on their own terms. and yes, they are VERY talented.
Selling out means changing your music or the way you approach your art for the sole purpose of making more money. period. Just because an artists changes his music doesn't mean he's sold out.

~~mjscarousal~~ · 04-04-2008, 07:39 PM

Majority of popular music sucks because its sucked into the marketing crap and they make music that sells. They sell a image, become to commericial and their music is crap. Thats why alot of bands/artists that are non- popular dont want to be mainstream because they don't want to change their style/ music for the market. Then you have some that do because of the sole purpose to be known. It really doesn't matter if you dig that music then thats you it doesn't matter if its mainstream or not. Who cares what other folks think? they don't have to listen to it lol but alot people don't want their favorite band/artist to become commerical because they are afraid the band/artist might switch their whole music style up for the market.

boo boo · 04-04-2008, 07:42 PM

I'm not saying its hypocritical but it is odd when you say that and you have an avatar and signature of who may very well be the most popular music artist in the whole world.

I'm a MJ fan, don't get me wrong, its just that when people usually say stuff like what you said, they have a Fugazi avatar or something.

Graham Clayton · 04-04-2008, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Just because an artists changes his music doesn't mean he's sold out.

Hi Satchmo,
I respect artists who decide that they wish to change direction because they wish to explore new musical directions. It can be a little tough if you are a fan and have bought a lot of CD's where the group has followed the same direction, and you are disappointed by the new sound, but no-one forces you to buy any subsequent albums. I would give any CD where a group has changed directions a couple of listens to see if the new style "grows" on me.

mr dave · 04-04-2008, 07:06 PM

talentless nobodies are the bands indie snobs love.

sell outs are the bands you used to like but now your little sister always listens to them.

the ideal spot is between when the indie snobs think a band sold out (because you know about them without their 'education') but your little sister still thinks the band sucks.

boo boo · 04-04-2008, 07:10 PM

Sellouts: Bands that used to be Indie.

Talentless nobodies: Bands that are still Indie.

So, my advice is, sell out as soon as possible, so none of your stupid fans will ever whine about you selling out.

sleepy jack · 04-04-2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo

Sellouts: Bands that used to be Indie.

Talentless nobodies: Bands that are still Indie.

I like how you whine about me bashing the Foo Fighters than you turn around and bash an entire genre. Lolrony.

boo boo · 04-04-2008, 07:16 PM

Difference is, I didn't do it on a thread that was specifically for Indie fans.

If you want to talk trash about the Foo Fighters, make a thread about how much you f*cking hate the Foo Fighters and stay the hell out of a thread that was meant for fans.

04-04-2008, 06:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
~~Oomph!~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Watertown, NY Posts: 240	Where is the line between sell-out and talentless nobodies? If a band is too popular they are corporate sell outs, but if they aren't popular enough it seems they are losers, nobodies. Where is that perfect spot between them? Everyone wants thier band to be liked and heard, but no body wants thier band to be commercialized pop idols either (for the most part)

04-04-2008, 07:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,847	There's nothing wrong with not being popular. I know lots of bands who have purposely evaded commercial success for the sake of making music on their own terms. and yes, they are VERY talented. Selling out means changing your music or the way you approach your art for the sole purpose of making more money. period. Just because an artists changes his music doesn't mean he's sold out.

04-04-2008, 07:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
~~mjscarousal~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 106	Majority of popular music sucks because its sucked into the marketing crap and they make music that sells. They sell a image, become to commericial and their music is crap. Thats why alot of bands/artists that are non- popular dont want to be mainstream because they don't want to change their style/ music for the market. Then you have some that do because of the sole purpose to be known. It really doesn't matter if you dig that music then thats you it doesn't matter if its mainstream or not. Who cares what other folks think? they don't have to listen to it lol but alot people don't want their favorite band/artist to become commerical because they are afraid the band/artist might switch their whole music style up for the market.