Is music dead as of 2008?
 

It really feels like it. Everything's been done before.

i'm sure something new and will come and wake people up

Music can't technically die since it was never alive in the first place. A sound isn't a living thing.

Well I have heard a ton of original stuff already. Secondly, just wait for Opeth's new album to come out in June and then you will be pleased.

You don't listen to much of a diverse range of modern music, evidently...

And anyway, what does it mean to say that "everything's been done before"? What a load of nonsense. If I wrote so much as one original melody right now, it would not have been "done before". I could do that in 10 seconds.

New genres are appearing all the time. New sounds are being created frequently. Go find'em. Kthxbi.

Dig a bit harder mate, you're not looking hard enough.

It is easy to get fed up of the same music. There are plenty of threads on these boards regarding great bands.

Try out some Robbie, some Michael, sprinkle some George on top and pepper it with Peter. You'll never make your wild claims again.

Rock and Roll will never die....

congratulations on having reached the point where music goes from something being delivered to you and changes into something you looked for. it's a good thing. the ball is now in your court. are you a real music fan or just a fan?

Mars volta proved that they haven't, no one's heard anything like bedlam.

Opeth's coming out with somethin?! Awesome...

i suggest that you just listen to a crazy variety of stuff. if you keep listening to the same mainstream artists and the same mainstream genres. Try to find something that is new to you and maybe even just in the local music scene.

everything had been done as of 1990, sans in electronic music. the reason that has progressed is due to new technology.

this is not an ignorant statement, either. i am completely serious. bands are just rehashing their influences and pre-existing styles and sounds.

Thats how it is in mainstream.......most people want to hear the same thing....they are afraid of change.

you're absolutely right. music will never change and we all are doomed to a life of musical desolation. it is unfortunate and many people will die as a result. it's every man for himself now. godspeed.

Not to be mean but come dude, wake up. There has always been great music and will continue to be great music. The only difference is maybe today you have to snoop around a little bit more to find it.

Some people expect great bands to knock at their door and hand them a great CD instead of doing abit of hunting and 'actual' listening.
For every one great band you have to go thru about 20 sh|t ones. But it's worth it. It's never too late to start.

true that. imagine how the rockers felt in the 80s when everything on the surface was disco, disco, disco. Everyone's felt this way so it's not like we won't pull through. We'll go through rough patches. This just happens to be one of them.

The short answer?

No.

Not even close.

...which isn't necessarily a good thing...

i'm dissapointed with bedlam myself. i like the older stuff.

People have being saying music is dead for years.
I watched an interview with the Doors where they talked about how 'Rock was dead'. You'll never appreciate your own generation if you look like that.

It's not only an ignorant statement, it's an arrogant, pretentious and elitist one as well.

Again, you clearly do not listen to an awful lot of non-EDM alternative music if you are able to say that. There are hundreds of bands with their own quite distinctive sounds, many of which mostly use electronic elements and create their overall aesthetic by means of the current advances in technology in the recording industry.

The weirdest thing I find about that post is he agreed with someone saying must pre-1990s sucks. So...by his logic music has to be unoriginal or electronic to be good?

Here's the post:

This is like a George W. Bush quote or something.

Huh? That's WAY too philosophical for the Bush-meister.

whoops, I never said music had to be new or groundbreaking to be "good".


you lose.


and rainard, I listen to quite a deal of non-EDM, though increasingly less so as it all becomes the same. to be quite honest, i've become quite jaded. name a band, and, if i've heard them, i can probably name at least 2 other bands that sound like them.

I disagree. Bush tries to be philosophical all the time, he always fails and makes himself look like an idiot, but dammit he tries.

But there was nothing philosophical about that post, its just stating the painfully obvious in a way that insults peoples intelligence, which Bush also does all the time.

Which isn't true for EDM?

There will always be new and original music, but just because its original will never ever mean its good.

And as for trying to find decent music, the needle in a haystack term is a massive understatement. In my oppinion at least 95% of lo-pro and indie bands completely suck, at the level that I find them at anyway. The other 5% dont suck, but they arent any good either, at least not yet. And beleive me, if any one of those bands were "great" than me and many others would defintly not have to look for them.

The music world works like a circle, it goes everything good, everything bad, everything good..... right now moslty everything new is bad, but it will come back around....

What constitutes good music is sub...........


Aaghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Its not that new music sucks, it just that the cutthroat nature of the music industry combined with the accessability of the media through the internet has insured that for every one original band that busts their ass just to make it to where they are, there are 1,000 wannabes that get signed overnight just for sounding like them. We the consumer/fans get inundated with all of it, and it amounts to sifting through heaps of garbage just to find something worth listening to. Of course, once we do we can be assured that the new flavor of the month will have arrived and the process starts all over again. So understandably its safer to go with music that has stood the test of time, but that's just as bad sometimes as having the media or pop culture tell you what to listen to

I like what I like, I'd like to think my tastes are very diverse, I like almost everything. So I like a lot of the obscure music "hipsters" listen to, but also a lot of the so called "corporate crap" thats supposed to make you uncool if you like it.

I don't think music quality should be judged by labels, or the people behind the music or whatever. And I think its obnoxious to tell people they have bad taste in music because they like music thats accessible to them through the media and is therefore very popular, as opposed to going to the Indie record stores like all the "cool kids".

As of now, I dont really spend much time searching for new bands, I'm happy with the music I already have, my comp is overloaded with files as it is.

Em, haven't you stated on multiple occasions that you detest indie music?
Also, really, who actually goes to an indie record store to find music these days...?

If you can't find anything favourable so far this year why not try another...

nah i never said that. just that slightly tweaking one knob on a 303 will resultu in a different sound, whereas you don't have that much variety between the same models of a guitar.


ultimately, i'm just trying to say that the "everything's been done" before argument isn't an argument at all. there is an infinity of possiblities when it comes to chord progressions, melodies, lyrics, hooks, beats, production styles, etc, that music will never get stale. however, stylistically, i feel that everything has been done. we will always have new songs but not necessarily new styles.

The crucial question being whether those 2 bands came afterwards or before...

Any new sound will be quickly copied. Why should that be a reason to become jaded?

Yes. Whats the contradiction here?

I don't just dislike Indie music because of the label (though I certainly do dispise the label), but because of the quality of the music that defines the so called scene. In other words, I don't like it, you know, just bcuz.

Though I never actually said I hate all Indie music, I think I've made it pretty clear that I don't.

Not to start an argument or anything, but can you name some examples so I know what you're referring to? Indie is a rather elusive label and covers a wide range of styles...