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Old 11-07-2021, 11:42 AM   #671 (permalink)
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Huh... So let me ge this straight...
Analogous to how refined, intellectual people who listen to challenging, complex music, might classify listening to something cheesy and cheap, produced for the masses, as a "guilty pleasure", so do the lower, less cultured classes, for whom wallowing in artistic filth is the sad norm, consider listening to more experimental, objectively more evolved music, to be a similarly "guilty pleasure"?
What a fascinating, downright droll, concept.

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what he said imo i could care less what people think of the music i listen to and nothing is a guilty pleasure to me if i like it idk if anyone knows i like it
Absolutely. I can listen to Andy Williams (I didn't think he was going to do "Moon River" but then BAM! Third encore!), Barry Manilow, ****ing Westlife, ABBA, you name it, and then put on The Plastic Violins of Darkness or Break My ****ing Sky or Black Sabbath. There ain't no such thing as guilty music pleasures, just music pleasures. **** being guilty.
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Old 11-07-2021, 11:51 AM   #672 (permalink)
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I guess I would go with individual songs (You Light Up My Life, The Rain the Park and Other Things, actually the Cowsills in general). Maybe the only "guilty" pleasure would be for me, artist wise, might be the Monkees
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Old 11-07-2021, 12:00 PM   #673 (permalink)
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Huh... So let me ge this straight...
Analogous to how refined, intellectual people who listen to challenging, complex music, might classify listening to something cheesy and cheap, produced for the masses, as a "guilty pleasure", so do the lower, less cultured classes, for whom wallowing in artistic filth is the sad norm, consider listening to more experimental, objectively more evolved music, to be a similarly "guilty pleasure"?
What a fascinating, downright droll, concept.

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Well duh, it's essentially the same thing. Peer pressure, but it just depends on whether the peers are 'refined, intellectual people' or 'lower classes'. OP is probably young, and conventional high school culture is a bitch.
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Old 11-07-2021, 12:05 PM   #674 (permalink)
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Well duh, it's essentially the same thing. Peer pressure, but it just depends on whether the peers are 'refined, intellectual people' or 'lower classes'. OP is probably young, and conventional high school culture is a bitch.
Yeah, one person's (or peer group's) idea of great music might be another one's music that should be avoided.
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Old 11-07-2021, 12:25 PM   #675 (permalink)
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It's more a matter of socially acceptable than of great music, but yes. 12 year old me was considered weird by my classmates for listening to the Beatles lol
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True story: About twenty years ago, my young nephew was grooving to the White Stripes. When I mentioned to him that I liked them too (I was about 40 then), he suddenly decided he hated them
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Old 11-07-2021, 02:42 PM   #677 (permalink)
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Huh... So let me ge this straight...
Analogous to how refined, intellectual people who listen to challenging, complex music, might classify listening to something cheesy and cheap, produced for the masses, as a "guilty pleasure", so do the lower, less cultured classes, for whom wallowing in artistic filth is the sad norm, consider listening to more experimental, objectively more evolved music, to be a similarly "guilty pleasure"?
What a fascinating, downright droll, concept.

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I know that i shouldn’t feel any guilt for loving the music i love. But when it’s considered as bad, weird, not something that is played on the radio or less cultured and something not everyone likes it just feels like a taboo to even enjoy it. And i’m embarrassed to letting my family and friends listen to any of my music. I mean i don’t feel any guilt in playing my favorite 80’s songs or any other of my favorite songs that aren’t so experimental. But it’s more the album’s i’ve mentioned and any other acidic/experimental/avant-garde music that i’m too afraid of playing, cause i know that they won’t like it and that i’m the only one who would love it.

I don’t know i guess i’m too easily embarrassed.
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You probably are.
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Old 11-07-2021, 04:11 PM   #679 (permalink)
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Yes but today's young ones have extreme challenges to deal with.
I was myself 100% when a teenager and a real rebel away from home that is..and as I was already in love by 16 so I was grown up
l cared for nobody's views whats so ever...I listened to the music I liked and never felt intimidated by friends...
That was in the 60's and was the best years looking back.
Today you have to be too tough to share all yourself, and that is real sad
I know from my grand daughter how she struggled with others at school..now she is coming up for nineteen and with a steady boyfriend she has life sussed...
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True story: About twenty years ago, my young nephew was grooving to the White Stripes. When I mentioned to him that I liked them too (I was about 40 then), he suddenly decided he hated them
I would have decided the same thing, you ****ing wet noodle Beatles fan.
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