Music Production and acoustics

swim · 03-06-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Another example: Nirvanas debut. The quote on the back is $600, which may or may not be accurate. However BLEACH sounds so much better than Nevermind production wise. again an example of production. The songs on Nevermind were a little more polished composition wise but even rawer tracks such as Territorial Pissings cannot match the first album.

I'm glad someone agrees with me about this. Steve Albini made In Utero noteable too, not to mention he made great albums for Bush and Chevelle. Despite the fact you can find Razorblade Suitcase at every music store used for 4 bucks it's great from beginning to end.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-06-2008, 05:12 PM

I've never been able to understand why the production on Albini's own bands sound so bad compared to his other stuff.
Every Big Black & Shellac album i've heard sound like the treble switch was jammed on maximum.

swim · 03-06-2008, 05:15 PM

I imagine it's easier to take other people's ideas and mold them than your own. I've never had a problem with Shellac or Big Black's production but his work for others is better.

SATCHMO · 03-07-2008, 12:53 AM

I think there's a distinction that needs to be made between an album being well produced and overproduced. I'm a huge fan of quality music production. I want to hear as much detail, balance, and musical presence as possible. A well produced album compliments the music and the artists and the level of production should be the last thing one notices when listening to a well produced album. An overproduced album usually wreaks of Record co. debauchery. Mastering engineers augment recordings with obnoxious levels of compression (in anticipation of commercial radio airplay) and generally polish the sound through a stupifying number of takes which sterilizes the spontanaiety of the music, and subsequently apply gratuitous degrees of audio processing to compensate for overall lack of talent in many cases.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-08-2011, 04:55 AM

Matters... Some genres need to be produced, and some don't. I mean, one could say a band like 'This Heat' is reliant completely on production ingenuity, and is an ingenious band simply due to the way it's produced.

Where as a lot of bands like 'Megadeth' sound much better with live recordings because you don't even really need to produce them, but producers attempt to anyway.

I think it just matters. I mean, if production ruins your love of an album, you might as well throw out any possibility of enjoy early metal, 80s punk, or even a lot of jazz. I think that unless the production is really ****ed up, the quality of music itself should shine. Take cue the 70s where things were often recorded once, or twice, and then just had some vocal overdubs slapped onto them. Doesn't matter, though, because the music itself is so strong that the outdated production can be listened past.

03-06-2008, 05:12 PM	#32 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I've never been able to understand why the production on Albini's own bands sound so bad compared to his other stuff. Every Big Black & Shellac album i've heard sound like the treble switch was jammed on maximum. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-06-2008, 05:15 PM	#33 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	I imagine it's easier to take other people's ideas and mold them than your own. I've never had a problem with Shellac or Big Black's production but his work for others is better. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

03-07-2008, 12:53 AM	#34 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	I think there's a distinction that needs to be made between an album being well produced and overproduced. I'm a huge fan of quality music production. I want to hear as much detail, balance, and musical presence as possible. A well produced album compliments the music and the artists and the level of production should be the last thing one notices when listening to a well produced album. An overproduced album usually wreaks of Record co. debauchery. Mastering engineers augment recordings with obnoxious levels of compression (in anticipation of commercial radio airplay) and generally polish the sound through a stupifying number of takes which sterilizes the spontanaiety of the music, and subsequently apply gratuitous degrees of audio processing to compensate for overall lack of talent in many cases.