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Old 03-06-2008, 04:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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how i wish i had bbc4
BBC iPlayer - BBC Four

And as if by magic ^

Check on it periodically, there's a good chance it'll be re-shown here.
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I think I-player only works in the UK
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Bollocks.
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Bollocks.
...but there's always youtube.
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good try though right-track. i appreciate it. i will be checking youtube though
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Right then...where were we?

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It stands out for me because it's so raw. It was that which grabbed me the first time I heard it & it's that which makes me never forget it.
So i'd say for me , it doesn't make the album good , it makes it memorable.
...oh yeah. Good point ^
Same goes for the whole punk thing.
Imagine the effect quality production would have had on that.
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...oh yeah. Good point ^
Same goes for the whole punk thing.
Imagine the effect quality production would have had on that.
Quality high end production in punk= Green Day and that's why I can't stand them. Although we could argue that certain bands are "underproduced", lessening of overdubs and effects which leads to a purer raw sound.

Another example: Nirvanas debut. The quote on the back is $600, which may or may not be accurate. However BLEACH sounds so much better than Nevermind production wise. again an example of production. The songs on Nevermind were a little more polished composition wise but even rawer tracks such as Territorial Pissings cannot match the first album.
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I wouldn't say all well produced punk is crap.

Martin Hannett produced the Dead Kennedys In God We Trust Inc EP & the guitars are so sharp you could slash your wrists with them.
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Martin Hannett is God.
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Although Dead Kennedys were not second wave punk, I think production had a bearing on the 2nd wave and was instrumental in adding texture and tone to offer a differentiating sound. Take Killing Joke. They ceratinly had great production on a lot of their albums and it's no accident that Youth has become a prolific producer.
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