The Explain Why You Like This Album ('cause i don't understand) Thread (albums, pink floyd)

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Please don't generalize me like that, you know you hate it when people do that to you.

I'm not generalising you, I've genuinely never heard you have a good word to say about anything that could be considered radical or left field.

Originally Posted by boo boo

Hendrix, The Who, James Brown, Sonic Youth, King Crimson, Ornette Coleman, Hawkwind, Roxy Music, Frank Zappa. Those artists were quite abrasive. I love improvisitation, but that's something you can only do if you have the talent and a basic understanding of musical stucture. Even Sonic Youth had that.

Maybe they were considered radical , left field , abrasive or whatever in 1975 but it's 2009 now, things have moved on. Boundaries have been broken. That just looks like a list mostly made up of mainstream rock bands who got a bit loud once in a while. Not saying there's anything wrong with those bands I have albums by all of them. But like I said music has moved on.

Originally Posted by boo boo

Listening to The Stooges is like a train wreck, and I'm tired of train wrecks, the media is full of them.

Well at least they were a charismatic train wreck with some great songs

Originally Posted by boo boo

I was listening to Hawkwind last night, that was a band who had the raw power that The Stooges had, but they had the talent and melodicism to channel that energy.

If I wanted to hear melodious music in the first place I wouldn't be listening to the bloody Stooges would I.

Originally Posted by boo boo

I wouldn't even say The Stooges were less energetic that say ELP, I mean Emerson live was like a man possessed, he would stab the keys on his Hammond with a knife, turn it over, hump it, rape the f*ck out of it.

Probably the highlight of an extremely dull & boring show

Originally Posted by boo boo

Why is it "rock n roll" when a punk band does it, and when Emerson does it it's just "pretentious wankery"? It's the same goddamn thing, with the exception that Emerson was actually talented.

I don't call prog bands making noise "pretentious wankery". I call endless solos & boring neo classical rubbish "pretentious wankery".
If you do find any punk bands who use those two things feel free to point them out to me so I can dismiss them as "pretentious wankery" as well.

Originally Posted by boo boo

And I guess talent just gets in the way of rock n roll, who needs it?

Well talent stretches over lots of different aspects, the only one you seem to apply it to is musicianship.

Originally Posted by boo boo

I like energetic performers, but they still have to be able to perform, and it's not just about having energy. Nobody would have cared about The Who's energy if they couldn't play, nobody would have cared about James Brown's energy if he couldn't sing or dance. GG Allin had energy, doesn't make him anything more than a talentless hack.

What you mean is YOU wouldn't have cared, please don't speak on behalf of everybody. Personally i'm willing to look past someone's limitations if I find what they're doing compelling or interesting. It might interest me for 5 minutes or it might interest me for 5 decades, but as long as it says something while it has my attention that's fine with me. But then we already covered this the other day.

Originally Posted by boo boo

Now Iggy wrote some great songs so I wouldn't call him completely talentless, but I don't like his vocals and The Stooges were hardly even bar band material as far as their talent goes. They had tremendous influence, some of it was positive, but I think the impact of punk rock in general is mostly negative, it really lowered the standard.

That's because you choose to ignore the post punk era save for a couple of successful bands that everybody likes. Although I dislike a lot of punk rock punk was the best thing that ever happened to music because it took music back out of the hands of the boring public school educated middle class musos that was like an epidemic in your own beloved prog movement and inspired people to get up & say something. Making for some really interesting & diverse music.

Originally Posted by boo boo

The Stooges had energy, but that's all their music was. And while they clearly had fun making the music, that really doesn't matter to me if it sounds like crap.

That's why I hear so many successful rock bands of the last 30 years covering ELP songs on a regular basis.

Oh wait

Originally Posted by boo boo

The MC5 were far superior anyway.

For every one good song the MC5 wrote the Stooges wrote three.