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boo boo 06-17-2009 04:15 PM

Yeah, it's no secret that The Sex Pistols were about the image.

But image has always been a part of rock n roll. So it's a bit of a silly thing to discredit a band for.

I'd rather knock Sex Pistols for being awful musicians who get all this undeserved praise for apparently killing my favorite genre of music.

Antonio 06-17-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 684062)
Those are all attributes that were important for the Sex Pistols of you ask me. The image is obvious, while the Pistols were the first abrasive punk band to still be accessible and widely accepted so i'd argue they had the 'punk' sound down more than the Ramones did. As for a message, what better than 'fuck that, listen to this'. Some of it was obviously tongue in cheek but songs like Bodies showed they were more than just the manufactured band that they get ridiculed for being.

yeah, i see those bands has having many of those attributes too, but i think each one had a strength in one of those

boo boo 06-17-2009 04:45 PM

Yeah, The Ramones were basically the Bay City Rollers with a faster tempo and distorted guitars.

And without the charming good looks. :laughing:

Alfred 06-17-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 684163)
But image has always been a part of rock n roll.

Oh please.

boo boo 06-17-2009 09:09 PM

I'm not saying it's important on a musical level.

You should know me better than that, I rant a lot about critics and hipsters putting greater emphasis on image than the actual music.

That being said, image has been a very important part of music marketing since the days of Mozart. And that will never change.

We would be without a lot of great and important artists if they didn't have the right, fashionable image to get people to take notice. You think The Rolling Stones would have been as popular if they looked like this?

http://gopher.mnstatefair.org/images...large/1282.jpg

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-17-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 683942)
yeah the way i see it

The Sex Pistols = the image
The Ramones = that "punk" sound
The Clash = the message in the music

Personally I think most punk that followed later on actually sounds closer to The Damned than any of those 3 bands.

lucifer_sam 06-18-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 684416)
Personally I think most punk that followed later on actually sounds closer to The Damned than any of those 3 bands.

yeah but you're not going to hear too many people crediting the Damned for influencing them. more artists linger on influences like Joe Strummer, Richard Hell, John Lydon, and Colin Newman than anyone else.

i'm getting to the point where i think the extent of first-wave punk music started and stopped with the Stooges. everyone else sounds so lame by comparison.

boo boo 06-18-2009 11:29 AM

Eh. The Clash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Stooges.

Character limit can only allow for so many arrows.

Antonio 06-28-2009 07:33 AM

http://magicalbums.files.wordpress.c...-i00-cover.jpg



*wait's for long lines of "wtf is wrong with you"/"zero musical taste"*

Antonio 06-28-2009 05:10 PM

so yeah, should i hate it then or what?


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