boo boo

Much like the progressive rock you so greatly dispise.

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mosesandtherubberducky

urban his bass playing does have melody. if it didn't have melody they wouldn't of had as much commercal (spelling?) sucess in the 90s

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Urban Hat€monger ?

I don`t despise it.

I don`t quite know where you got that idea from. I`ve always said i`ve never liked grandiose excess of it at it`s worst.But if I despise it so much i`d hardly own albums by bands like Can , Faust , King Crimson , Pink Floyd , Neu , Hawkwind & The Mars Volta would I ?

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boo boo

I thought you didn't consider most of those bands to be "progressive rock" though.

I like Can, though I can be picky about what I like from them and what I don't...

I don't really see how their music is bursting with melody or anything (even by prog standards), since their musical range falls somewhere between ambient and just plain noisy (even by prog standards), overall I see their music as being extremely inaccessible (even by prog standards).

At times I can find Can to be quite pretentious.... Umm, even by prog standards.

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Seltzer

I've always found Can to be more about the hypnotic rhythms than the melodies. I love their chaotic improvisational style - completely eclectic and unorthodox. Tago Mago is one of my favourite prog albums.

With Can, my mind is free to travel anywhere.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Well my favouite Can albums are Soundtracks & Ege Bamyasi which are probably their most accessable. So make of that what you will.

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boo boo

Tago Mago is a pretty solid album, but I still dislike Aumgn imensely since it comes out as more of a sound collage (a la Revolution 9) than anything remotely close to a musical composition, so whenever somone says "well they don't wank like all the other prog bands" I can only assume that either they haven't heard that "song" or they have a very warped sense of sonic perception.

While their influence on Radiohead and Krautrock is greatly appreciated, I just don't see what makes them THAT special or unique, I don't think they are as great as many people make them out to be, especially when people make it out like they were the only band to use polyrhythms and atonal song structure at the time.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

I still don`t know where your coming from with this wank stuff about Can.

Seltzer pretty much summed up what I said about them somewhere else , it`s all about the rhythms , not virtuoso guitar performances. I`ve always thought that they keep the guitars in the background when I listen to most of their stuff.

So one or two songs don`t work? They`re an experimental band it`s bound to happen , not all experiments work.I`m certainly not gonna sit here & say every Can song is a work of art that all bands should be judged by.

Why do i think they`re special as opposed to other bands of the era?

Simply because they were my first exposure to experimental music and also a band who thought there was more to life than extended guitar solos in an era littered by them.

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boo boo

I can name a handful of prog bands that never or rarely do extended guitar solos, or even guitar solos period.

I'm not calling Can a wank band, just pointing out that one composition in general that I personally think outranks pretty much every other prog song in overall wankness, it simply boggles me that they figured it would be a swell idea to add that song to the album, especially when it pretty much takes up one half of it (clocking in at over 17 minutes), certainly they had better songs that could have been on the album instead... But you're right, most experiemental bands are garanteed to have some very mediocre songs and albums here and there, especially prog bands.

Anyway, I don't see Can being all that different from the other experiemental/progressive rock bands at the time, except that maybe their music is more subdued instrumentally, which is probably why they appeal to a much younger/hipper audiance than your average prog band, I'm just tired of every f*cking critic in the world saying they were the only good prog band of the 70s.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

It`s not just the lack of extended solos , this might sound like an acronysm but a huge problem I have with progressive rock was it just to my ears a lot that I have heard wasn`t that progressive.

Now I realise by now your probably blowing steam out of your ears but let me explain.

One of the reasons I like Krautrock was to me it seemed very forward thinking. You can see it`s influence in electronica , post punk , new wave blah blah blah.
On the other hand some progressive rock was full of backward looking people obsessed with classical music trying to be modern day classical composers writing 30 minute epics with titles like Matilda And The Magic Mangrove swamp a modern day parable in 20 parts of simple folk or other such bollocks with a 50 ft high magic castle with the drum kit on top & the band dressed as magic elves or something.And to me it`s dated really badly.

Not saying it`s bad or that all prog is like that, just that it`s not for me , and it might explain why Can are highly regarded today & why others are not.

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