Worst band on earth? (lyrics, singer, dance, bass, instrumental)

Merkaba · 03-31-2006, 02:47 AM

EDIT: Dontrunmeover is not included in the following rant, i'm just a slow typer.

Jesus christ shutup.

I swear you two were arguing the same shit last week. You won't win by running around in circles. You can't beat each other.

On a side note, theres a difference in the emotion a musician shows and the emotion the listener can hear. When you're listening to DT on the stereo, you can't see the emotion. Petrucci could be having a mental fit of pure effort in the recording studio, but if his guitar is speaking monotone the listener doesn't give two shits.

Thats the reason so many dislike DT. The band may put in unfathomable amounts of emotion personally but the music does nothing to convey it. Thats what it feels like to listen to DT. They are good musicians, I accept that, but their music lacks serious impact. Why can't they play with that level of skill but add some flair. DT don't have flair. The day they can take me by suprise will be the day I like Dream Theater.

~~Don~~ · 03-31-2006, 02:48 AM

The usual way to describe the height for mountains is using the word 'HIGH' not 'TALL', silly noob, where do you think the word height comes from? lol

DontRunMeOver · 03-31-2006, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Don

The usual way to describe the height for mountains is using the word 'HIGH' not 'TALL', silly noob, where do you think the word height comes from? lol

EDIT: The word 'TALL' does not feature in my post. How can you complain against my use of a word I did not use? Put the spade down, get out of that hole and answer the question.

~~Don~~ · 03-31-2006, 02:58 AM

I believe you said "tallest," sorry for deriving tall from that.

The point I was making was an obvious one; that it's so hard to convince someone that they're wrong when they believe something. And I used those two examples as an analogy because they are frequently mistaken for facts for whatever reasons.

~~Don~~ · 03-31-2006, 03:35 AM

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And please just give up already and dont even bother responding, i already have an idea of exactly everything that you are about to say, do us all a favor and leave already...Either that or you can not respond to this, and maybe we can all learn to respect you a little more.

I wasn't going to reply, because you just keep going in circles. But that one bit about Spears and melody? I hope you don't think she actually has anything to with the compositions of the songs she sings.

boo boo · 03-31-2006, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Don

I wasn't going to reply, because you just keep going in circles. But that one bit about Spears and melody? I hope you don't think she actually has anything to with the compositions of the songs she sings.

She does have a small role on writing some of her compositions...Regardless i can tollerate her music more.

DontRunMeOver · 03-31-2006, 03:45 AM

Yes, I understand that your taking 'tall' to mean distance from the base to the peak and that, if it were used purely in this sense, then Mauna Kea (just looked it up) would be the tallest mountain. However, I shall repeat it again, this is not the way in which the word 'tallest' is typically used for mountains. You can debate the derivations of the word all you want, but for mountains 'tallest' typically means 'highest elevation above sea level'. Yes, in its pure form - as it would relate to comparitive heights of animals/plants/buildings etc. - this word is used inaccurately here, but within the context 'tallest' has become the correct word to describe Everest's height.

Oh, I'll leave it. Don't worry about it.

~~Don~~ · 03-31-2006, 03:51 AM

Okay but what if the question was asked on a quiz show? 'High' would definitely be the word used, and with this whole context thing, that's what I'm saying. When someone says "Mount Everest is the.....mountain on Earth," what goes into the '...' doesn't really matter, which is what you're saying. But if you want to be correct in what you're saying, you need to say high, because it's fact that high and tall have completely different meanings in no matter what context you use them in.

DontRunMeOver · 03-31-2006, 04:03 AM

The core meanings are very different, true, but from what I've seen with the common usage of tall and high to describe mountains, hills etc. 'tall' is often used in place of 'high'. Using proper by-the-book English this is, I agree, incorrect. In more common usage, I shall repeat again the most common definition for the 'tallest' mountain is that which has the highest elevation above sea-level. Accepting this doesn't mean that you don't understand or respect the difference between 'tall' and 'high' as they are meant to be used, but it does show that you understand how they ARE used in certain situations.

In a quiz show they would say 'high', true. That's because 'tall' would be ambiguous, not wrong. It would be ambiguous because there are a variety of interpretations of the word in the context, only one of which is the same as 'high'.

"How high is that mountain?","We'll it jus' smoke a big bag o' weed and then ate ten bags of chees'n'onion...If it ain't already real high it sure gonna be soon"

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I'm going to Cornwall now. Catch you guys later. Don, I'm going to find some music to argue about with you sometime... instead of having these ridiculous language debates.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-31-2006, 07:16 AM

Jesus wept, is this still going ?

03-31-2006, 02:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	EDIT: Dontrunmeover is not included in the following rant, i'm just a slow typer. Jesus christ shutup. I swear you two were arguing the same shit last week. You won't win by running around in circles. You can't beat each other. On a side note, theres a difference in the emotion a musician shows and the emotion the listener can hear. When you're listening to DT on the stereo, you can't see the emotion. Petrucci could be having a mental fit of pure effort in the recording studio, but if his guitar is speaking monotone the listener doesn't give two shits. Thats the reason so many dislike DT. The band may put in unfathomable amounts of emotion personally but the music does nothing to convey it. Thats what it feels like to listen to DT. They are good musicians, I accept that, but their music lacks serious impact. Why can't they play with that level of skill but add some flair. DT don't have flair. The day they can take me by suprise will be the day I like Dream Theater. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

03-31-2006, 07:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,626	Jesus wept, is this still going ? __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-31-2006, 02:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
~~Don~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 558	The usual way to describe the height for mountains is using the word 'HIGH' not 'TALL', silly noob, where do you think the word height comes from? lol

03-31-2006, 02:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
~~Don~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 558	I believe you said "tallest," sorry for deriving tall from that. The point I was making was an obvious one; that it's so hard to convince someone that they're wrong when they believe something. And I used those two examples as an analogy because they are frequently mistaken for facts for whatever reasons.

03-31-2006, 03:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
~~Don~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 558	Okay but what if the question was asked on a quiz show? 'High' would definitely be the word used, and with this whole context thing, that's what I'm saying. When someone says "Mount Everest is the.....mountain on Earth," what goes into the '...' doesn't really matter, which is what you're saying. But if you want to be correct in what you're saying, you need to say high, because it's fact that high and tall have completely different meanings in no matter what context you use them in.