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When did i say that?...I like Yes for their ****ing music, no other real reason
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I'm not saying you said it, I was just making a statement, but it does seem like you enjoy the importance of a band more than the actual music. And if I ever said "My favorite bands are better than all these bands," I was clearly joking, but you seem to say it quite frequently and with things like "Oh, but they [your opinions] are [better]" I'm quite certain you would do anything to try and convince me that your ****ty prog bands like Yes are "better" than DT, because it's obviously what you've been trying to do for the passed 2 pages. For the last time, I don't give a **** about how influential Yes are and how important they have been to prog, it's sorta like saying "Chuck Berry is the best artist ever because without him there would be no rock at all."
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Meh, whatever you say buddy....Queensryche and Fates Warning had a much more important role in the development of prog metal than Dream Theater, they were just along for the ride.
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Never said they didn't, but along for the ride? That's rich. Let me write a list:
Shadow Gallery
Victor
Arena
Tad Morose
Magellan
Randy Jackson
Enchant
The Lonely Bears
Explorers Club
Dali's Dilemma
Heads or Tales
Ice Age
Royal Hunt
Zero Hour
Gordian Knot
Magnitude 9
Planet X
Cuarto Obscuro
Who are they you ask? Some of the bands that have been influenced by DT, so please don't write silly jokes. And aside from the obvious followers they have, DT is what made prog-metal popular in the late 90's-now,
after FW and Queensrÿche.
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Put Yes, Deep Purple, Rush, Dio, Steve Vai, Iron Maiden and Queensryche in a blender, add a pinch of Styx and Supertramp and viola, you have Dream Theater.
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Wow, that's a lot of artists! lol
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Hypocripsy strikes again.
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I've never seen Rudess hit a note and looked like he didn't care at the same time. Same with Petrucci. We just have difference definitions of wank. To you, it's probably about playing really fast and maybe playing ascending scales. But for me it's playing exactly like Wakeman in "Catherine Parr" to name one example.
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Oh gee, Bruford has only been in the music business for over 40 years, drummed for more than a dozen big name bands and has performed on over 50 albums...He certainly dosent beat the guy who drums for Dream Theater. 
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Wtf? I'm saying MP contributes more to the music. Meaning that he writes the lyrics and contributes to the song-writing. But once again you've misinterpreted 'experience' and 'importance' with the actual music and being able to play.
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Is that the one where you lied about your age?
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How hilarious. I thought I already explained that it was my brothers post, Don is part of our last name.
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This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard you say, try reading some of Squires freaking tabs, maybe you will realise how wrong you are...He cant keep up with Howe?...Give me a break.
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Never said he can't keep up with Howe, but it seems like he chooses not to for the majority of any track. How bout you read the bass tab for "The Dance of Eternity." Reading Squires tabs would be like a great bed time story.
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Name me at least 20 great Myung basslines, and i could list twice as many from Squire without even trying.
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Only 20? Umm how bout, every single DT piece lol
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When did i ever said he couldnt play?...Im not stupid... I dont mind that Labrie sings like a girl, i do mind that he sings like a constipated robot...Prog isnt really a vocal oriented genre anyway, but Anderson at least puts some emotion into it, and if you say otherwise you would be lying, listen to And You And I.
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Again, I wasn't saying you said that, just making an analogy. If you say that "Prog isnt really a vocal oriented genre anyway" then why do you keep complaining about LaBrie? Oh that's right, you think DT aren't prog lolol. If you picked anyone in the world who knew what prog-metal was and asked them to name a prog-metal band, DT would be their first choice. So are you saying that like everyone in the music world is wrong except for you? lolol
And "And you and I" literally sends me to sleep, and that's not a joke. I was listening to CTTE on the train one day and I'm pretty sure I feel asleep at around the time that track was on. So for you, putting your heart into it is basically singing like boring pieces of crap with a 12 year old's voice?
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You only say this because you dont have the slightest idea what you are talking about...Music evolved you say?...What is DT doing thats so new?...Name me one thing they are doing that is new, just ONE, but you wont do it, because i know you too well.
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What I'm saying is that DT have taken the boring bass lines and whatever from Yes and co. and elevated them to the next level. And one thing? Okay, each track off the album "Octavarium" is in a different key, transposed by one each time. I don't recall any other artist ever doing that.
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DT are not only doing anything new, but they are also taking a once great form of music and are dumbing it down to just boring sheet music...And their crappy music is misleading blind fanboys like you into misinterpreting the entire meaning of progressive rock and what its actually about.
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Dumbing it down? They've made it 10^100 times more interesting than Yes could ever dream of doing. If you put on a random Yes album the response you might get from listening to it is "this is cool, it's like rock but taken to the next level, but it's like 40 years old, but whatever, it's classic." And contrasted with listened to a DT album: "They've taken old-school prog to the next level, man this is so f-ing powerful and intense."
So, what's more interesting?
You woose. Let's leave it at this:
Back in the day, no one can argue with how important Yes have been to prog rock; they are the definitive progressive rock band. But we're not living in the 70's anymore, and the music I like has to be music that sounds like it's emotionally charged. And for me, most of the time you need to do that with more metal elements in your music. How about I just say you don't like DT because you don't like prog-metal and I don't like Yes because I don't like most of prog-rock.
End of debate.
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