My taste in music is better than yours... (lyrics, indie)

cardboard adolescent · 02-02-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

You can do that without getting drawn into an arguement , i've done it myself plenty of times.

And that fact should be apparent to anyone with half a brain , which is why I consider it a lazy cop out.

Alright, I can accept that.
I thought you were just totally calling it a bs claim.

the-ceej · 02-02-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

No it makes them interesting & worthy of my time

Just because they are interesting and worthy of my time doesn't automatically make me like them.It just means i'll give them credit for being original.

You never know , a band might take that originality and put their own twist on it that will make me like it. I don't happen to like the Velvet Underground that much however they influenced hundreds of bands that I do like , so I give them credit for that.

That makes sense
touché

~~achoo~~ · 02-04-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

No it makes them interesting & worthy of my time

Just because they are interesting and worthy of my time doesn't automatically make me like them.It just means i'll give them credit for being original.

You never know , a band might take that originality and put their own twist on it that will make me like it. I don't happen to like the Velvet Underground that much however they influenced hundreds of bands that I do like , so I give them credit for that.

thank you urban, you said what i was trying to say.

NoiseNotMusic · 02-04-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the-ceej

So as long as a band is creative, they're good? You really don't care if the music is catchy or anything?

"Yeah that band is so original, I love them... I can't stand listening to them for more than 2 minutes, but they're a great band"

catchy? lol if that's why you listen to music then just stop.

lucylamppost · 02-04-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Just because they are interesting and worthy of my time doesn't automatically make me like them.It just means i'll give them credit for being original.

Agree there is a lot of talented and creative bands that I just don't like listen to do but it doesn't mean anything at all it's just not my cub of tea .
But I respect them and the people who listen to them

Just like there is a few very non talent bands that I listen to because I enjoy them .

littleknowitall · 02-04-2008, 03:56 PM

If It hasn't been pointed out already the creative spark in the arguements that seem to arise when discussing music and the reason I think people are angry, or aleast some (I do believe some are simply being egotistical or looking to argue) Is that mainstream music these days can in many many instances be a complete mockery of decent music throughout the last 100 years. It is, there's no way anyone can tell me 'well thats just YOUR opinion' It just without a shadow of a doubt is...in terms of its quality, sound, talent, ethics, means of construction, influences, artists, creativity, passion, soul etc. It's just on the whole not as good and I think that just makes some people a little angrier when it comes to discussing music when someone promotes the modern music scene.

Rainard Jalen · 02-04-2008, 04:22 PM

well, let's look at the facts. much of the music in question is plainly:

- absolutely shameless in terms of redundancy and use of cliches either in melody, lyrics, chord progressions, instrumental arrangements and general sonic aesthetics; this is a fact, not a subjective observation. it can be shown empirically through gathering information/statistics and by comparison with other pop of the same sort. again: it is NOT some weird opinion that some pompous underground/indie dude invented. claims of redundancy, banality and creative bankruptcy are expressions of actual facts about the structure of the music itself. observable, verifyable phenomena.

- over-produced, so much so that it doesn't even qualify as great over-produced pop

If creativity really matters to a fan of music, the fact is they're not going to have any interest in the likes of Akon, Nickelback, and so on. the question of TASTE only goes so far as whether one's taste is for unoriginal innocuous uninspired pop, or for something a little more daring, risky, edgy and adventurous. Where one goes from that point on, is really down to plain fact.

littleknowitall · 02-04-2008, 05:25 PM

Thankyou very much for furthering on my point

(not sarcasm)

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 02-04-2008, 10:42 PM

The original poster does make a good point, but to me, it's fairly obvious why people are so self righteous when it comes to music opinions. It's because people look around at the culture, and say, 'man that sucks,' We see so many things in day to day life that we just say that sucks, and we know it's wrong, and then we find out that some person who we think really sucks listens to Nickelback, and we say, "Ha, I've got you, I can prove you suck, because you listen to Nickelback." Everything done by the mainstream, whether just music, or daily behavior, I tend to see it sucks, and so I love being able to prove myself right when I'm able to say, "Ha, oh you listen to this music, that sucks, or oh, you like to shop, oh that sucks" It helps me feel vindicated.

littleknowitall · 02-05-2008, 08:26 AM

I agree with the original poster in the sense that it's something that really isn't necessary when someones just trying to put someone down like ' haha, my chemical romance....twat!!' (although reeeeallly ....mrc? *shudders*, in that instance it might be deserved) but there's reasoning as to why a lot of the mainstream AND altenative music of today can be considered to be absolute bollocks.

02-04-2008, 03:56 PM	#86 (permalink)
littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	If It hasn't been pointed out already the creative spark in the arguements that seem to arise when discussing music and the reason I think people are angry, or aleast some (I do believe some are simply being egotistical or looking to argue) Is that mainstream music these days can in many many instances be a complete mockery of decent music throughout the last 100 years. It is, there's no way anyone can tell me 'well thats just YOUR opinion' It just without a shadow of a doubt is...in terms of its quality, sound, talent, ethics, means of construction, influences, artists, creativity, passion, soul etc. It's just on the whole not as good and I think that just makes some people a little angrier when it comes to discussing music when someone promotes the modern music scene.

02-04-2008, 04:22 PM	#87 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	well, let's look at the facts. much of the music in question is plainly: - absolutely shameless in terms of redundancy and use of cliches either in melody, lyrics, chord progressions, instrumental arrangements and general sonic aesthetics; this is a fact, not a subjective observation. it can be shown empirically through gathering information/statistics and by comparison with other pop of the same sort. again: it is NOT some weird opinion that some pompous underground/indie dude invented. claims of redundancy, banality and creative bankruptcy are expressions of actual facts about the structure of the music itself. observable, verifyable phenomena. - over-produced, so much so that it doesn't even qualify as great over-produced pop If creativity really matters to a fan of music, the fact is they're not going to have any interest in the likes of Akon, Nickelback, and so on. the question of TASTE only goes so far as whether one's taste is for unoriginal innocuous uninspired pop, or for something a little more daring, risky, edgy and adventurous. Where one goes from that point on, is really down to plain fact.

02-04-2008, 05:25 PM	#88 (permalink)
littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	Thankyou very much for furthering on my point (not sarcasm)

02-04-2008, 10:42 PM	#89 (permalink)
Miltamec Soundsquinaez Aural melody discerner Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in a truck down by the interstate Posts: 347	The original poster does make a good point, but to me, it's fairly obvious why people are so self righteous when it comes to music opinions. It's because people look around at the culture, and say, 'man that sucks,' We see so many things in day to day life that we just say that sucks, and we know it's wrong, and then we find out that some person who we think really sucks listens to Nickelback, and we say, "Ha, I've got you, I can prove you suck, because you listen to Nickelback." Everything done by the mainstream, whether just music, or daily behavior, I tend to see it sucks, and so I love being able to prove myself right when I'm able to say, "Ha, oh you listen to this music, that sucks, or oh, you like to shop, oh that sucks" It helps me feel vindicated.

02-05-2008, 08:26 AM	#90 (permalink)
littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	I agree with the original poster in the sense that it's something that really isn't necessary when someones just trying to put someone down like ' haha, my chemical romance....twat!!' (although reeeeallly ....mrc? shudders, in that instance it might be deserved) but there's reasoning as to why a lot of the mainstream AND altenative music of today can be considered to be absolute bollocks.