ProggyMan

They're one of the most unique and innovative bands in history. They fuse a dozen different genres into extended improvisational masterpieces on their incredible live albums, and also have the ability to write good pop songs. All the members had a high level of musicianship, and the band represented hippy culture in early 70's. Not to mention that they're an incredibly influential psychedelic band.

sleepy jack

1. The were not one of the most unique and innovative bands in the history of music, they were just one of the first jam bands.
2. Dozens? List them? Sounds like an exaggeration to me.
3. So? Plenty of bands have the ability to write good pop songs. Pop isn't the most complex genre in the world.
4. Musicianship doesn't equal good music look at Dream Theater.
5. How is representing the hippie culture even worth stating?
6. They were plenty more influential bands then them some of which even predate them like Country Joe & The Fish and the Zombies. The Doors started the same time as them and they were be tter then theres Hendrix and Cream and so on. You're overrating them.

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ProggyMan

Very funny with your wikipedia heading...I'm absolutely cracking up...I don't see how you can say they were just one of the first jam bands, they made far more complicated music than any of their contemporaries, and how is them achieving iconic status for an entire sub-culture not worth mentioning? And I fail to see how Cream, Hendrix and The Zombies are relevant.

sleepy jack

Lol because they were.

Complicated music doesn't mean good music.

Because it has nothing to do with the music.

Um...they're psychedelic...and more influential than the Grateful Dead....Not hard to figure that one out.

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ProggyMan

1./2. On their own being a jam band and making complicated music would be irrevelant to greatness, but the fact that they made complicated music that fused rock, jazz, psychedelia, folk and many more genres make them unique and innovative.
3. This is a discussion of the greatness of a band, and having iconic status makes them 'greater'. That's just my opinion. I feel that artists like Madonna's pop culture status gives them a larger importance in the music world.

sleepy jack

Did they fuse all that in one song? And I'm not talking playing a folk song then switching to jazz in one jam either.

Um no it doesn't. lol@even saying Madonna is important to the music world.

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ProggyMan

1. Occasionally, yes. Usually, no, but they almost always fused 3 or more genre's in their jams. Studio records are a slightly different matter.
2. Lol at you thinking she isn't.

sleepy jack

That's a typical thing for a jam band to do. I already acknowledged they were a jam band.

Please explain how releasing shitty pop music to fit the times for 20 years makes her any better than any other shitty pop artists riding the current trend of music.

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ProggyMan

1. Have any specific jam bands hat were fusing that many genres and making that complicated music at the time?

2. Never said she was good. But she was important.

sleepy jack

Haven't I already acknowledged they were one of the first jam bands? You're trying to argue something I never disagreed with in the first place seeing as I specifically stated they were one of the first. Are you so desperate to look right you're going to resort this?

Anyone could've filled Madonna's shoes. She's done nothing new, she just does whats popular. That doesn't make her important, that makes her your average pop star.

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