fanofthefab4

There are many people who feel The Rolling Stones are dinosaurs and that they haven't done anything great for 35 years! And of course you can't believe and don't want to believe that Dave Navarro or any other musician really doesn't like The Rolling Stones.

Urban Hat€monger ?

I can accept people don't like the Stones. I see it everytime a Beatles fanboy comes onto this forum.

Doesn't change my opinion of them though.

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fanofthefab4

I'm not a Beatles "fanboy" I'm a very big long time impressed fan yes, and I know a lot about them and I came on here to debunk the inaccuare myths about The Beatles. I don't hate The Rolling Stones though. But *you* are a Rolling Stones fanboy so there! I was just wondering if you don't mind I ask what age group are you in? There are many people who like both The Beatles and The Rolling Stones you know.

Also your assuming that anyone who doesn't like The Rolling Stones is just a huge Beatles fan,but there are some people they are not the majority,who don't like both!

Urban Hat€monger ?

I happen to like both , I just think the Stones are better.

I just think it's a shame that Beatles fans have to knock the Stones all the time just to prove the greatness of The Beatles ,when if they really were that great they wouldn't need to.

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fanofthefab4

Well The Beatles really were that great infact Charlie Watts,said so and Keith Richards and Mick Jagger were big fans and friends with them too! If The Rolling Stones are that great than Rolling Stones fans wouldn't need to knock The Beatles! And it's not just Beatles fans who knock The Rolling Stones and many Beatles fans as I said also like The Rolling Stones too,and Dave Navarro didn't say what he feels about The Beatles

Urban Hat€monger ?

I've not knocked them I've just expressed a preference.

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Try listening to some great Paul McCartney *ROCK* The Band On The Run Album,and Venus and Mars albums,and a hard rocking last Wings album Back To The Egg that David Gilmore,Pete Townsend,John Bonham and John Paul Jones played on two songs on,plus some very good rockers on his very popular 1971 very good Ram album,and a few on McCartney his first very good solo album that he played every single instrument by himself on and he played *so* many instruments great at only age 27! Many people have said he wrote the first true heavy metal song,Helter Skelter on The Beatles great 1968 White album! And try listening to a fantastic noisy hard rocker called The Mess recorded live with Paul and Wings in Amsterdam in August 1972 it was amazingly the B side to MY Love! But thats just how diverse Paul McCartney really is!

And Bob Dylan certainly doesn't agree with you that John was a more serious song writer. Bob Dylan said in a Spring 2007 Rolling Stone interview that he's awe of Paul McCartney and that he's the only one he's in awe of! He said Paul has the rhythm,and he has the melody,and he said he can sing the ballad very good and can play any instrument! He also said there were no better singers than John Lennon and Paul McCartney.

Paul McCartney has always been much more talented as a bass player,singer,multi-instrumentalist and *musicical* composer! Paul's father Jim McCartney was a naturally musicically talented self taught accomplishd jazz pianist and leader of his own jazz band,Jim Mac's Band and they were popular in clubs in the 1930's .

But Paul's father wasn't a poet,and he even wrote some of his own instrumental jazz music and Paul recorded one of his father's old jazz songs called Walking In The Park With Eloise which Paul included on his 1976 Wings At The Speed Of Sound album. So Paul inherited his father's natural musical talent to the extreme! Paul McCartney can and has written great lyrics but he doesn't have to and even when he does it's always his music that is what so great about the songs!

Also just in case you don't know,Paul wrote his great Beatles song Let It Be after he had a very vivid dream where he saw his mother Mary who had been a nurse and a midwife and who died 12 years before from breast cancer when Paul was only 14,(and Paul and his younger 12 year old brother visited their mother in the hospital where she was bleeding from her operation but nobody told Paul and his brother that their mother had breast cancer and that she was bleeding from the operation,and how she died! they weren't even allowed to go to her funeral!) and she seemed real and alive to him telling him to just accept things as they are. He says in his authorized biography Many Years From Now,that when he woke up he thought how wonderful it was to see her again,and this is what he means with the lines.When I find Myself In Times Of Trouble Mother Mary Comes To Me,Speaking Words Of Wisdom Let It Be,And In My Hour Of Darkness She Is Standing Right In Front Of Me,Speaking Words Of Wisdom Let It Be.

Also Paul McCartney has been in The Guiness Book Of World Records since October 1979 as the most successful and covered song composer ever!

fanofthefab4

OK but I was just wondering what age group you are in and why do you like The Rolling Stones better?

fanofthefab4

Thats why John was sexually involved with many young women as a teenager,and he confessed out of guilt to his first wife Cynthia that he had been with 100's of other women mostly young groupies!

fanofthefab4

You don't know what you are talking about Paul McCartney is a true musicial genuis,he's rightfully widely regarded as one of the best rock bass players,singers and song writers and he can play any instrument great! He wrote quite a lot of The Beatles rockers including a few great early rockers,as The All Music Guide says The Beatles showed they could rock really really hard with John's song I Feel Fine,and Paul's great blues rocker She's A Woman,and they said Paul's peerless rocker I'm Down which they said was one of The Beatles most frantic rockers and that they did a really wild performance of this song at the August 1965 Shea Stadium concert! Paul as many people have said wrote the first true heavy metal songs,Helter Skelter on The Beatles great 1968 rock White Album!

And John Lennon never said that Paul's Beatles songs had no substance,he may have referred to a few of Paul's solo songs that way,and he and John did not stop writing together by 1962,they co-wrote songs in 1964,1965, 1966 and 1967! They both co-wrote With A Little Help From My Friends at Paul's piano and they wrote it for Ringo to sing. Also it was Paul McCartney who contributed the interesting Sea Gull sounds from his own tape loop experiments on John's song Tomorrow Never Knows,and Paul wrote most of the great music in A Day In The Life and it was his idea to have the notes from an orchestra rise up and then crash down with the piano too. He half conducted The British Philharmonic Orchestra at age 24 with George Martin!

And read the June 1975 online John Lennon Rolling Stone interview,he says that Paul McCartney's 1973 album Band On The Run is a great album,and that it's Paul's music and it's good stuff! When he was having an affair for a year and half with May Pang while John and Yoko were seperated, John almost went to New Orleans in early 1975 to play on Paul's great 1975 rock Wings album Venus and Mars but he got back together with Yoko instead who became pregnant with his second son Sean soon after.Also John said that Paul was one of the best and most innovative bass players ever and that half of the stuff thats going on now is directly taken from Paul's Beatles period!


Yoko called Paul up not long after John died and told him that John often would tell Yoko with tears in his eyes that he really loved Paul! Paul also plays great lead guitar on his own song Another Girl,John's Ticket To Ride and on George's Taxman as well as that great bass on Taxman! And Bass Player Magazine recently voted Paul # 5 Greatest Bass Players of all time and # 2 creators of best most creative bass lines!