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Old 09-04-2007, 03:07 PM   #351 (permalink)
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have you listened to all of their discography? specifically the later part of their career? i agree with the notion of "what is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular", but there is a reason just about everyone thinks they are the best band of all time. everyone is entitled to their own opinions so i cant say that yours is stupid, but i think you havent put enough time into it. they were able to transcend through many different genres and were well loved through it the whole time (something that can be said about very few bands). beyond that, they changed music in a way few other people ever have. sgt pepper and the lonely hearts club band completly broke the rules for recording an album, it set the stage for an epic era of music. really man, if you close them off your only hurting yourself.

edit - and although maynard is very talented... he is definetly NOT the best song writer of all time.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:13 PM   #352 (permalink)
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have you listened to all of their discography? specifically the later part of their career? i agree with the notion of "what is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular", but there is a reason just about everyone thinks they are the best band of all time. everyone is entitled to their own opinions so i cant say that yours is stupid, but i think you havent put enough time into it. they were able to transcend through many different genres and were well loved through it the whole time (something that can be said about very few bands). beyond that, they changed music in a way few other people ever have. sgt pepper and the lonely hearts club band completly broke the rules for recording an album, it set the stage for an epic era of music. really man, if you close them off your only hurting yourself.

edit - and although maynard is very talented... he is definetly NOT the best song writer of all time.

I agree with your statement man but I have heard alot of beatles. My best friends dad is a beatles fanatic and he always has them blarring his speakers.

Also I said Maynard is ONE of the best
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:27 PM   #353 (permalink)
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The Beatles were innovative. While I agree that maybe early Beatles was pop trite their later material had so much going for it. They wrote what is probably the first hard rock song, they pushed a weird gimmick to its limits, they wrote some of the earliest concept albums, and they wrote Eleanor Rigby.

What did Tool do? Put good drumming behind nu-metal riffing and mixed it with bits of ambient? Yeah, lame. While I find Tool moderately enjoyable I can't stand Maynard's vocals or his lyrics, and I most certainly don't understand the hype.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:33 PM   #354 (permalink)
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They werent even good at their instruments (compared to TRUE greats Led Zeppelin/Pink Floyd/ HEndrix etc.).
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:45 PM   #355 (permalink)
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I think when you shout about a dislike of a band, you will get run in's with other posters no matter WHAT band it is. As it is The Beatles, you will probably get twice as many comments. You don't like The Beatles? perfectly understandable, but comment on it in a positive and well written way. I don't care for Led Zeppelin too much, but I won't start a thread on this. It serves no purpose for me. There are plenty of posters on here who don't like many bands, but they don't start I HATE threads (usually).

Maybe you could become an asset to these boards, but posting something like this thread early on in your MB time is asking for pot shots to be taken.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:52 PM   #356 (permalink)
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I'm not crazy for the beatles either. But i realize that they were great, and I totally respect them. But for me it just sounds too archaic and bland, i realize they were controversial songwriters for the time. But **** it if i hear them a lot everywhere i go.

Give me John Lennon's solo stuff anytime though, that I truly love
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:54 PM   #357 (permalink)
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this thread is getting more action that ron jeremy!
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:43 PM   #358 (permalink)
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More poor child,

People who don't like the Beatles either have not heard their entire catalog or have terrible taste in music.

I know that's a blanket statement and pretentious and what not and we are not supposed to do that, but I bet it holds up.

The Beatles made some bad music to be sure and a lot of their early stuff now sounds archaic and drab, but if you can't appreciate their later stuff and their catalog as a whole and enjoy a large percentage of it you have a bad ear. Also their popularity speaks for itself. They are among the most popular acts of every generation for a reason.

It's easy to say you don't like a band when you've never listened to them, especially one like the Beatles whose songs you've heard your whole life rather you realize it or not. Buy Abbey Road or Revolver or The White Album or Sgt. Peppers and give it a week or so and see if you don't start to wonder, "what else have they done" there are just too many styles of music for someone not to find an album they enjoy.

I like Tool a lot, Hendrix, Zeppelin, I like better then the Beatles, but the Beatles are the greatest ever far and away I am not sure that's even debatable if you take personal preference out of the equation.

Anyway, you're missing out on great music, but there is plenty more amazing music you can enjoy just as much or more.

This post was a waste of time, but It just kind fell out in about 90 seconds.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:59 PM   #359 (permalink)
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I hate it when people say the Beatles were just the boy band of their time, most boy bands don't write songs like Helter Skelter, hell most boy bands don't even write their own songs. It unfair to compare any band that wrote their own songs and played their own instruments to Nsync or the Backstreet Boys regardless of what music they made. In fact, the only similarity I see between them and a boy band is the Beatles were all great singers.

Now onto the actual post, its the biggest pile of ignorant crap i've ever seen. The Beatles tons of the things, and possibly had the biggest influence ever, from The Elephant 6 Recording Company all the way to Elliott Smith. I don't understand how you could listen to the White Album and then make a post like this.

And to close this post i'd like to say two things, the Beatles pop era was fantastic and Help! is still one of my favorite albums and that the Beatles piss all over tool.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:12 PM   #360 (permalink)
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The Beatles are pretty darn awesome. Tool is the band that sucks.

I think you had them reversed.

EDIT: May I also mention that the remaining members of the Beatles continue to produce NEW material and music... unlike say The Rolling Stones and Lynard Skynard (arguably two big classic rock bands), who are just empty shells of the bands they once were; playing songs they wrote 30 years ago to rednecks on fair ground stages.
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