Biggest sell-outs? (metal, ballad, albums, fan, metallica)

whos_next · 01-01-2008, 05:34 PM

metallica didnt sell out. they changed their sound because they wanted to put out something new and different

YSHKMWYHTC · 01-01-2008, 05:39 PM

Black album?
Napster?
St Anger?
Yeah Bob Rock was the puppeteer behind it but Metallica were money hungry ****s for the past 15 years or so.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-01-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by YSHKMWYHTC

Black album?
Napster?
St Anger?
Yeah Bob Rock was the puppeteer behind it but Metallica were money hungry ****s for the past 15 years or so.

I don't see how Bob Rock was responsible for it.
The 2 biggest criticisms of And Justice For All by Metallica fans themselves were that the production was awful & the songs went on for too long. By getting a better producer & writing shorter songs they were giving the fans what they wanted.

There maybe some truth in the other reasons why they 'sold out' , I don't think this is one of them.

YSHKMWYHTC · 01-01-2008, 06:41 PM

One way of selling out IMO.
Writing for the people, not for themselves.
My theory is that it was for the peoples money, but you know w/e.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-01-2008, 06:45 PM

They had shorter songs & ballads on earlier albums & nobody said they sold out then.

YSHKMWYHTC · 01-01-2008, 07:14 PM

Cos it was their earlier albums. Before they gained huge popularity.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-01-2008, 07:16 PM

So if they gained huge popularity by doing what they've always done how is it selling out?

YSHKMWYHTC · 01-01-2008, 07:17 PM

nay you mis-understood me.
They wrote some short songs as well ,just naturally.
Upon the crowd giving out about the longer tracks they decide to change how they want an album to sound, for other people.

jackhammer · 01-01-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by YSHKMWYHTC

nay you mis-understood me.
They wrote some short songs as well ,just naturally.
Upon the crowd giving out about the longer tracks they decide to change how they want an album to sound, for other people.

I think they just wanted to sell more records TBH. It's a shame because Metallica played a huge role in my youth. They were the first band I ever saw. The band throughout the 90's did not have the same ethos that they had in the 80's which was a peoples band. When they become really huge, they lost that connectivity with the audience. Master of Puppets was their last truly great album. There has been tracks on various albums since then that I like, but they changed and not for the better.

YSHKMWYHTC · 01-01-2008, 07:51 PM

was never a huge fan of them tbh.

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YSHKMWYHTC Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 162	One way of selling out IMO. Writing for the people, not for themselves. My theory is that it was for the peoples money, but you know w/e. __________________ *You Should Have Killed Me When You Had The Chance*

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	They had shorter songs & ballads on earlier albums & nobody said they sold out then. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

01-01-2008, 07:14 PM	#86 (permalink)
YSHKMWYHTC Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 162	Cos it was their earlier albums. Before they gained huge popularity. __________________ *You Should Have Killed Me When You Had The Chance*

01-01-2008, 07:16 PM	#87 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	So if they gained huge popularity by doing what they've always done how is it selling out? __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

01-01-2008, 07:17 PM	#88 (permalink)
YSHKMWYHTC Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 162	nay you mis-understood me. They wrote some short songs as well ,just naturally. Upon the crowd giving out about the longer tracks they decide to change how they want an album to sound, for other people. __________________ *You Should Have Killed Me When You Had The Chance*

01-01-2008, 07:51 PM	#90 (permalink)
YSHKMWYHTC Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 162	was never a huge fan of them tbh. __________________ *You Should Have Killed Me When You Had The Chance*