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12-16-2007, 08:21 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
Ba and Be.
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“A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”
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12-16-2007, 10:41 PM | #12 (permalink) |
Fish in the percolator!
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You might want to add Sun Ra to your free jazz list, as he really was quite an influence.
To be honest, I don't see why King Crimson isn't considered avant-garde. As much as I like the other prog giants like Genesis, Rush, Jethro Tull and Yes, I feel that none of them were anywhere near as original as King Crimson. Fripp's use of sonic textures, the atonality, the pure darkness/heaviness compared to other music at the time, the unique instrumentation (THRAK had 2 drummers, a bassist and someone on Chapman stick), the lyrical perspectives, their wild improvisational style etc. It's hard to describe... you really have to listen to it. They did (and still do) experiment quite a bit and this leads to most of their albums having a unique sound. I mean, they had a jungle (as in electronica) song released in 1981. You could consider Meshuggah to be avant-garde. Given the fact that they stylise their music to be machine-like with polyrhythms and the Meshuggah riff style, the huge range of influences, the jazzy flowing solos, the use of repetition, complex rhythms and vocals as an instrument to produce a trance state... they could probably be considered avant-garde. Ulver is a band I would consider avant-garde. They have their Black Metal Trilogie, of which one is folky black metal, one is straight biting black metal, and one is completely folky. Their following albums were electronic, trip-hop, minimalist, ambient... everything. Experiments in music... I see Gorguts on your list, which is good. Perfect example of avant-garde metal.
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01-27-2008, 03:06 PM | #14 (permalink) |
Music Addict
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*excuse the bump*
So my project was a success. A lot of people liked it, some where disturbed but intrigued but I think many people were interested. Thanks for helping me out, I learned a lot from it and there are so many avant garde artists I listen to know. I appreciate all the help you gave. By the way, Gates_of_Iscariot, who is the artist that plays classical over the satanic bible? It sounds interesting. |
01-28-2008, 08:36 PM | #15 (permalink) |
Groupie
Join Date: Jan 2008
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RE: REcommendation
Captain Beefheart is just as crazy as Frank Zappa and they did a lot of music together. As for underground acidjazz, try Modeski, Martin & Wood or Three Mile Pilot. Very good and a good influence on music. Music that is mainstream is so re-gurgatated that it doesn't hav much influence. Its the stuff that not many know people know about but those who do have a real appreciatation for good music and its timeless.
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