It's funny I'm kind of the exact opposite way. I really like some of the overproduced stuff like Dimmu Borgir, and even a Satyricon album. A lot of the '80's and early '90's stuff just doesn't really seem to interest me. I like what some of the other bands have done with it, taking bits and pieces, adding orchestral arrangements or ambient aspects to it. I mean it's pretty cool seeing bands like Ulver just change so vastly so quickly. I'm still undecided about this whole French Black Metal/ Shoegaze scene going on, and I think a lot of black metal fans feel the same way about it as Noktu.

Hahaa :laughing: That's so great! We're like polar opposites. I just love that the early stuff was so damn dark. I think the main thing is that the early pioneers really believed in what they were doing. I mean how many bands were dressing up in corpse paint and singing about satan? There's just a sort of feeling I get from listening to that stuff that I don't get much from the modern stuff.

Although Sortsind is relatively new (late 90s) and they're my absolute favorite Black Metal band. So it's not like I hate ALL new stuff and love ALL old stuff. There's just a certain feeling in some Black Metal records that I love. It's hard to say about the Post Black Metal/Shoegaze scene. I think the more open minded listeners (like me) welcome it. I could see if some didn't enjoy it but Noktu is an ass for completely disparaging a whole genre. I mean really. Shoe gayze? Come on.

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Lovely album :)

Heard about it from Rickenbacker btw. Cheers mate.

Busted out Devin Townsend's Terria for a high quality listen, god I love this album!!!

Ugh... It's so good.

Motion City Soundtrack - Commit this to Memory
Jenny Owen Youngs = Transmitter Failure

Now listening to Temple of Low Men by Crowded House... quite possibly one of their greatest, most overlooked albums... great songs about guilt, remorse, infidelity, loneliness... utterly cuts to chase and describes the dark underbelly of human emotions and love...

I think I'll download that now. Known about the band for years but have only listened to Elephant Eyelash. I need more upbeat stuff.

i wouldn't call it particularly upbeat but it is good regardless.

Why? isn't upbeat :-/