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Old 09-28-2017, 09:23 PM   #14501 (permalink)
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:15 AM   #14502 (permalink)
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You also have lots of silly reasons for not being interested in albums.

And you're not foolish as a general rule, just for attempting the impossible (you are not the first person to attempt it, and the others didn't succeed either) and for denying the value of RYM as a resource.

Time is limited and valuable. I'm gonna give myself the best odds of finding new, quality albums.
I never really use RYM, (or even Last.fm. both sites most MB members use). I rely on YouTube, and sometimes refer to other sites for band names. I find Youtube to be helpful in bringing up related bands. But it's not perfect, every so often I need another site to help inject new ideas. I do sampling a lot songs and albums on YT that are just meh before I find something that strikes a chord. Once I find something I like, I find the odds actually increase in finding more stuff I like. The only difference between me and Trollheart is that I don't post the music I come across that I don't like.

I could be wrong but I kinda thought of RYM as closed-knit as MB. Hypothetically if the vast majority of the community likes 3/5 to 4/5 albums I'd be stuck listening so stuff I don't care about. So I avoid it. I don't want other people's taste in music, I want my own taste. I could be absolutely wrong about RYM, but that is how I surmised it.

That being said. I think your are right that Trollheart should use RYM. I think if Trolls used another resource (whatever it is) it will help facilitate in finding music that is relevant, the good/great album he's looking for.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:50 AM   #14503 (permalink)
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I could be wrong but I kinda thought of RYM as closed-knit as MB. Hypothetically if the vast majority of the community likes 3/5 to 4/5 albums I'd be stuck listening so stuff I don't care about. So I avoid it. I don't want other people's taste in music, I want my own taste. I could be absolutely wrong about RYM, but that is how I surmised it.

That being said. I think your are right that Trollheart should use RYM. I think if Trolls used another resource (whatever it is) it will help facilitate in finding music that is relevant, the good/great album he's looking for.
Eh?

RYM doesn't dictate what I think about an album, it's just a pool of well-received albums to sample from. I choose to listen to albums on the basis of within-year rank and genre, but it doesn't determine what I think when I hear it. RYM is just a convenient tool for music research, basically.

I don't use youtube because I don't like to hear songs out of their album context before I listen to the album. I listen to the whole thing as one piece of work and make up my mind based on the whole of it.
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Old 09-29-2017, 08:03 AM   #14504 (permalink)
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I could be wrong but I kinda thought of RYM as closed-knit as MB. Hypothetically if the vast majority of the community likes 3/5 to 4/5 albums I'd be stuck listening so stuff I don't care about. So I avoid it. I don't want other people's taste in music, I want my own taste. I could be absolutely wrong about RYM, but that is how I surmised it.
This isn't really true from my experience. Other than a sometimes abnormal bias towards certain metal albums, RYM tends to follow the norm regarding its highest rated albums. I don't think anyone is arguing that we all have to like the same music, but it's just a common belief/practice that looking at the general consensus 'best albums' for a certain year or genre is a reliable way to find good music. I mean if it at the end of the year, multiple sites and multiple MB members have ranked an album I haven't heard in their top 5, I want to know what I'm missing out on.
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:16 AM   #14505 (permalink)
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First: as you all know, I'll do what I want so stop trying to convince me to change my modus operandi.

Second: We're now a month into this thread so I'm hardly going to change it now

Third: I don't in any way regret doing it the way I have done. I've discovered some good albums, some great albums, some hilariously bad albums and those I really can't stick I just use one of my clauses to bail on

Fourth: see first.

Wiki's is a completely unbiased list, whereas RYM, no matter what way you look at it, is skewed by people's favourites and tastes. This is NOT what I want. I don't want to hear what other people think is good: I want to discover the good (and the bad, believe it or not; it amuses me) albums MYSELF, not be handed this information. There's no feeling quite like discovering a gem nobody else knows about. Wiki doesn't say "Oh this album is great you should listen to it". There is no bias either way. It's purely a list, and nothing more, and it's up to me to make up my mind as to the merits, or demerits, of each album on that list.

End of argument.
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:19 AM   #14506 (permalink)
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:22 AM   #14507 (permalink)
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Yeah. **** off and leave me alone. You want to make a thread based on this year's RYM albums, ain't nobody stoppin' you, chile!
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:55 AM   #14508 (permalink)
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:39 PM   #14509 (permalink)
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RYM are a solid starting point but definitely not ideal if your trying to dig deep for "hidden gems". The top 200 albums every year at any given time is just a glorified popularity contest. You'll still find lots of good albums, but ranking seems like more of a byproduct of marketing than anything else.

I have a good example of this. My number one album last year (Designs In Rhythm by Ice Choir) was a phenomenal pop experience yet it was only ranked #617 for 2016. The album was released independently on Bandcamp and the guy behind the project doesn't have a massive PR machine.

The music is fantastic, but you'd likely never discover that album on RYM unless you got down to a very specific set of search criteria based on genre tags related to synth-pop and then started looking at rating, number of votes, etc.

The better your search criteria...the more likely you will find what you are looking for.
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