sleepy jack

I just have a hard time taking someone seriously was probably listening to Bad while typing out that they listened to good music.

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mjscarousal

Really? thats YOUR opinion and just because its an artist or artists YOU wouldn't listen to doesn't mean its bad music... that is if were talkin about people like Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Marvie, ***e, Temptations, Stylistics, old skool. Legends, there is no debate, the music out now (yea thats terrible music). Whats ur point? Just learn to accept peoples opinions not everyone is going to like or ONLY listen to the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd etc, their all great bands but there is nothin wrong with other great acts besides them.

sleepy jack

Michael Jackson isn't a legend, he's released only a few albums that are held as classics. All of which are pretty typical pop albums that may have been influential but what they influenced was garbage. I wouldn't put him on the same pedestal i'd place Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder on, that's making him look more important than he actually is.

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mjscarousal

lmao are u serious? I don't get how some of you people can say that.. but anywho It doesn't matter what YOU think or anyone else on here. He IS a legend (accept it or not) and yes his released a few albums but shoot the music was real good. So what are u saying a dude can't release 8 albums and it not be good? There are people who release 12 albums and their ALL crap. It has nothin to do with how many albums are released just the music, his music is timeless because its GOOD music. All the music on the albums are not "typical pop". MJ music ranges his innovative and his sounds changes.

He can come out with 2 r&b songs, 2 pop songs and 2 rocks songs on the same album. If you exactly go out and listen to his music and stop judging it on what YOU think it might sound like, you'll get my point. MJ is very important he did alot for the music industry, I'm not going to run my mouth about that again. Doesn't every artist have there share in influencing crap artists? Stevie and Marvin influenced artists who are crap to, all artists do lol so whats ur point? MJ is up there with Stevie and Marvin but they each of course have their own category.

sleepy jack

If Michael Jackson is so timeless why has he kept changing his sound to fit the modern times? Oh that's right because if he released Thriller today it wouldn't go anywhere why? It doesn't fit today's music market, it fits the 80s music market and he's released only three albums which are considered classics, the rest he's released are just crap. I don't even like Bad, Off the Wall or Thriller, in fact I think they're trash. If an artist isn't very consistent it takes away from his talent and legend status. Besides, I think it's fairly obvious Quincy Jones is the real talent there. You admitted Michael Jackson released alot of crap, funny how as soon as you take Quincy out of the picture all thats left is the crap.

So? Paris Hilton covered a variety of genres on her album i'm not going to considered her talented for it. Pop artists commonly throw out a few songs in each genre, it doesn't make them good or versatile.

Like what? Make some influential music videos? Give me a break music videos suck, very few artists treat it as an artform most just use it as an excuse to show as much female skin as possible.

We've gotten into this debate before, the only credible artist he influenced was Wu Tang Clan and he only influenced one of their members so that isn't exactly vital is it? If you took Michael Jackson out of the picture I doubt RZA would sound very different. Other notable artists you named consisted of Madonna, Janet Jackson, Boys II Men, Celine Dion, Coldplay and Evanescene. A great and credible gang right?

Wrong, Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye are actually important to the music world. If Thriller, Bad and Off the Wall never came out we probably wouldn't be dealing with the Madonnas and Timberlakes of the world. Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye have proven to be consistent without the help of producers. Here, My Dear is probably my second favorite Marvin Gaye album guess when that came out? Twenty years after What's Going On. Michael Jackson isn't going to release anything credible unless Quincy Jones decide to starting writing for him again.

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TheCaster

Crowquill is a mod (just a little warning) and he can come back to anything you say with a 2 page essay. so i suggest giving up while you still have your dignity...

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sleepy jack

I like to rock my body and bring the sexy back just as much as the next guy but that doesn't mean I think he's credible artist.

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Steve Miller Band to Snow Patrol to The Crystal Method to Bob Marley to Jimmy Buffett to Taproot to Peter Gabriel to Arcade Fire.

BigTime

MIchael Bolton to 50 cent.

I listen to everything! My range is ****ed.

mjscarousal

For the record, this is ridiculous and your not giving MJ credit at all. MJ's music is definitly timeless and always will be. People are STILL playing Billie Jean, Don't stop till you get enough, The way you make me feel, Black or white, You are not alone, Butterflies,(notice every single song I mention is taken from every MJ album) Thriller doesn't fit todays music market because music today is CRAP. Its not about quality music, once again its about whats sells. People don't care about good music anymore, they buy the ish.People don't care about making good music anymore. This goes for ALL the classics but back on topic people are still bumpin all of MJ songs and even Jackson 5/ The Jacksons song. ALL MJ albums were real good. You can only make a real tru honest opinion until you exactly listened to ALL his albums, which I'm pretty sure you haven't. The ONLY one you we can probably argue is Invincible thats it but even still I love Invincible, definitly not his best but it wasn't a bad album. Why does Quincy Jones always end up in the mix when were talking about MJ? Quincy and Mike back in the day were a great pair they made history. Why do you keep making it seem like because of Quincy MJ is successful, bull ish, MJ was already successful long before he worked with Quincy. He just really wanted to work with him because he was a hot producer and it turned out the match was successful but once again MJ wrote just about ALL those songs on the three albums Q helped produced. Billie Jean, Beat It, The Way you make me feel, wanna be startin somethin, don't stop till you get enough all of those HITS were written by Michael Jackson. Stop hatin and just give the man credit. MJ deserves everything he has received and achieved.


Plse lets not mix apple and oranges. My whole point was MJ is very diverse he didn't always sing popular music as he is really known for. He did other things. Like Prince, mixed funk, jazz etc. Of course people with NO TALENT who do random crap on a album of course its crap. Somebody like MJ has REAL genius talent so what kind of comparision was that? You keep putting MJ in some low mediocre category when he is MUCH more than that.


Ahh.. hell yea and its no give me a break, MJ made some tight a$$ vids the videos out TODAY suck booty, bitch and whine about them but MJ exactly created art and a story line. Music videos do suck the ones out now but MJ's are tight. He influenced music, through music, songwriting, dance, he broke alot records, once again I talked about this already.

Once again, this whole he influenced a bunch of crap artists is stupid. So did Aretha Franklin, So did the Beatles, So Led Zepplin, EVERY artist influences other artists. Some are crap, some are talented, thats human nature bro. Why are you just making it seem like its ONLY Michael Jackson who influenced crap artists when there other great acts that have to. Janet is good, Boys II Men is good the rest I can live without I just mentioned them because they were influenced by MJ.



No your wrong, the reason why we have the Madonnas and Timberlakes has nothing to do with MJ. Why do you keep blaming the state of the music industry on MJ? its bull. The reason why we have so many Timberlakes aka "Michael Jacksons clones" because there is no real talent. Their still at the stage where you imitate an artist your influenced by and they don't push to be INNOVATIVE. There impersonaters and a water down version of the real thing. There is no real talent which leads me to why there is so many Madonnas. For the record, Madonna is aight but she is overrated but getting on point, Madonna really can't sing but she did what she had to do to get on top. She had the appeal charisma and the right producers, song writers to produce her stuff for her. So that kinda started a trend thats why so much is not taken seriously any more in the music world. Real music doesn't matter and if you have the right look and you appeal to alot of people, who cares if your song sounds terrible or if you can't exactly sing. They give out grammies like its candy to anybody, its ridiculous. I'm not blaming HER but I can see ur point. I don't think its MJ fault either. I think its because its been a decline in people wanting good music and people making good music. The record companies sign anybody now, its sad. MJ wrote his OWN songs, his OWN hits and when him and Q had a divorced produced his own stuff. Mike was fair game and was in the biz since he was 5, by the time he started workin with Q he could have produced OTW,BAD, Thriller by his self but he WANTED to work with Q. In BAD, anyway he was really into producing the tracks with Q.