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sleepy jack 11-22-2007 10:53 PM

In Rainbows Vs. Icky Thump
 
I meant to make this thread awhile ago but anyway. The albums aren't really comparable but when both came out they were all very well received by the MB community and rode our last.fm charts for several weeks so i'm curious to see which one everyone likes better.

I vote radiohead.

Joshee 11-22-2007 11:22 PM

Radiohead.
Definitely.
:)

adidasss 11-23-2007 07:45 AM

Moi aussi...:D

jackhammer 11-23-2007 12:06 PM

White Stripes album has been played twice, whereas the Radiohead has been blasted to buggery. So any guesses?!

right-track 11-23-2007 12:14 PM

^ You recognised the quality of 'Icky Thump' immediately, but your still undecided about 'In Rainbows'.

jackhammer 11-23-2007 12:23 PM

Spot on, I recognised the quality of White Stripes=average.
Undecided for the title of best Radiohead album ever.:D

The Dave 11-23-2007 12:27 PM

In Rainbows is easily the better album, Icky Thump, while still good, just didn't have much replay value with me.

Mouseketeer 11-23-2007 02:00 PM

I prefer the White Stripes overall, just becuase I've listened to them more over the years.

But I think Radiohead are more diverse and I should listen more. Although I've only listened once, I go for In Rainbows. The band are highly overrated though.

TheBig3 11-23-2007 03:34 PM

I have yet to hear "In Rainbows" so I didn't vote but its tough to make these calls. This year goes to Radiohead but in 2003:

Radiohead - Hail to the Theif
The White Stripes - Elephant

I'm sure more would have selected Detriot that year but its no reflections on the band.

Perhaps a poll on who is better live.

billyjerome 11-23-2007 08:58 PM

Good question...

Radiohead.

Expletive Deleted 11-23-2007 09:15 PM

I hated Radiohead's new one, so the White Stripes win by default (despite me not having anything more than a single from it).

NoiseNotMusic 11-24-2007 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted (Post 416508)
I hated Radiohead's new one, so the White Stripes win by default (despite me not having anything more than a single from it).

Why did you hate it? Especially if yr a fan of their previous work that doesn't make much sense.

Dizzys in the wolf 12-12-2007 09:44 AM

I've been totally lost in Icky Thump this last week, i think its a much much better record than In Rainbows.

that one dude 12-12-2007 10:32 AM

I'm more into "Icky Thump" than I am "In Rainbows". However, I'm also a bigger Stripes fan than I am of Radiohead.

Brock_West 12-12-2007 04:28 PM

Can't stand Radiohead

Crowe 12-12-2007 07:33 PM

Love the Stripes. Radiohead doesn't have much replay value for me and if I'm not playing close attention - all the songs could be one giant song with small changes in the style. I do like Radiohead though, I just have yet to let In Rainbows grow on me. However, I will say this: Any Stripes album v any Radiohead album would ultimately be a Stripes victory in my book. Can't really rock out to Radiohead, imo.

Dizzys in the wolf 12-13-2007 09:53 AM

Hail to the theif took me a year and a half to get in to, and I was genuinely trying to get in to it, So i'll probabily be saying in about two years that In Rainbows is a better album, but not yet for me.

Zer0 12-14-2007 07:27 AM

Has to be Radiohead, you cant keep a good band down. Radiohead piss all over anything by The White Stripes, apart from Elephant which was half decent.

Crowe 12-14-2007 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 422170)
Has to be Radiohead, you cant keep a good band down. Radiohead piss all over anything by The White Stripes, apart from Elephant which was half decent.

So you tried to give credit to the White Stripes and mention Elephant over all of their other work? This makes me think you haven't heard the other Stripes albums. Elephant is the second to last album -I, personally- would bring up when trying to credit them, even in an undercutting manner. Now I am merely assuming here, of course, since I don't know what you've listened to, what you appreciate etc, etc... but please, at least, go listen to De Stijl (if you haven't already) before you try to make Elephant the pinnacle of the Stripes' discography!

Kevorkian Logic 12-14-2007 08:08 AM

the white stripes are kinda boring. At least to me.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-14-2007 09:11 AM

I've heard both albums a grand total of once each :o:

lovemusic 12-14-2007 09:52 AM

Radiohead!

Zer0 12-17-2007 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowe (Post 422174)
So you tried to give credit to the White Stripes and mention Elephant over all of their other work? This makes me think you haven't heard the other Stripes albums. Elephant is the second to last album -I, personally- would bring up when trying to credit them, even in an undercutting manner. Now I am merely assuming here, of course, since I don't know what you've listened to, what you appreciate etc, etc... but please, at least, go listen to De Stijl (if you haven't already) before you try to make Elephant the pinnacle of the Stripes' discography!

I have listened to all their albums. I would rate De Stijl second. It just that Elephant seems better in my own opinion

TheBig3 12-17-2007 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 422170)
Has to be Radiohead, you cant keep a good band down. Radiohead piss all over anything by The White Stripes, apart from Elephant which was half decent.

No. They absolutly do not. And tell me, what was the non-decent half of Elephant was. Not that I disagree with you on this point. Just on your overall opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowe (Post 422174)
So you tried to give credit to the White Stripes and mention Elephant over all of their other work? This makes me think you haven't heard the other Stripes albums. Elephant is the second to last album -I, personally- would bring up when trying to credit them, even in an undercutting manner. Now I am merely assuming here, of course, since I don't know what you've listened to, what you appreciate etc, etc... but please, at least, go listen to De Stijl (if you haven't already) before you try to make Elephant the pinnacle of the Stripes' discography!

Elephant is second to last? Whats last?

Crowe 12-17-2007 10:16 PM

I don't know, it was a half hearted statement. Disregard~~~

TheBig3 12-18-2007 10:58 PM

You don't have a rank you blasphemous whore?

Crowe 12-20-2007 12:23 AM

Hahah! Hey, only my mother calls me a whore!

De Stijl
White Blood Cells
Elephant
Icky Thump
Get Behind Me Satan
S/T

That's what it averages out to, but it changes to however my life's going. I like hearing GBMS when I'm down and outtish. Their middle 3 when I'm feeling nostalgic and Self Titled/Icky Thump when I'm working out. So this list is constantly in flux.

TheBig3 12-20-2007 04:17 PM

So really elephant is second to second and GBMS is second to last? Your list unfortunatly is reasonably accurate, which is shameful to me because I like the satan.

Crowe 12-20-2007 06:42 PM

Whoa, whoa - did I just hear personal shame when discussing preferences within the Stripes' discography? No need, Big3! I love, love, love all the Stripes albums almost to an inappropriate end (read: auditorysturbation). GBMS is gorgeous! I think my favorite track is Take, Take, Take... well... or Little Ghost.

TheBig3 12-21-2007 06:51 AM

/agree but GBMS gets a not quite appropriate rap for tracks like red rain and ugly as I seem. They should rename GBMS "crap shoot" because the whole albums a 50/50 gamble which was needed in the social context but not the musical one.

joyboyo53 12-21-2007 10:07 AM

'In Rainbows'. Although I did rather enjoy 'Icky Thump', the album felt a lot less complete than IR.

Rainard Jalen 12-21-2007 10:28 AM

I was surprised to come back here after such a long while to discover that there had been a level of popularity associated with Icky Thump that could rival that of In Rainbows.

I'm glad to see Icky received so much love. I was kinda wondering why most people I know personally could not really get into it. I thought it was in all ways an excellent rock record.

I certainly got more enjoyment out of it than In Rainbows. I wouldn't say that musically it's at all the better record, though. IR wins for creativity and sonic beauty, IT wins for being one of the most rocking garage rock records ever recorded.

TheBig3 12-22-2007 11:14 AM

This one is forever going to be a tough call. Radiohead gets senseless acclaim constantly, but the stripes delivered us from post-grunge hell.

You can't put a price on that really.

sleepy jack 12-22-2007 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 424251)
This one is forever going to be a tough call. Radiohead gets senseless acclaim constantly, but the stripes delivered us from post-grunge hell.

You can't put a price on that really.

Radiohead's acclaim isn't senseless, they're one of the most creative bands of this era, which is more than can be said for the stripes. I would hardly credit the stripes for "delivering us from post-grunge hell" either, especially seeing as I'd hardly consider us out of "post-grunge hell."

TheBig3 12-22-2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 424311)
Radiohead's acclaim isn't senseless, they're one of the most creative bands of this era, which is more than can be said for the stripes. I would hardly credit the stripes for "delivering us from post-grunge hell" either, especially seeing as I'd hardly consider us out of "post-grunge hell."

Senseless ~ Crazy, Amazing, Stupid.

Which is more than can be said for the stripes? Saying their not one of the more creative bands of the era? Do you mean creative that doesn't sound like crap, or do you mean just creative?

You can not credit them with all you want. We're all entitled to be wrong, but I haven't heard the Legions of Creed surface in quite sometime. And I'm getting you some Midol for christmas by the way.

sleepy jack 12-22-2007 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 424323)
Senseless ~ Crazy, Amazing, Stupid.

Which is more than can be said for the stripes? Saying their not one of the more creative bands of the era? Do you mean creative that doesn't sound like crap, or do you mean just creative?

I misinterpreted what you meant by senseless, so yeah that's fair. The White Stripes maybe creative but they're not original, which does count for something.

Quote:

You can not credit them with all you want. We're all entitled to be wrong, but I haven't heard the Legions of Creed surface in quite sometime. And I'm getting you some Midol for christmas by the way.
I'm going to assume Nirvana/Pearl Jams rip offs aren't commonly played on the radio in other places. That being said I doubt the Stripes are the sole cause for bands like Creed disappearing. Popular rock has just changed as it always does, it would've happened with or without the stripes. Paramore or Interpol replaced Creed, just like someones going to replace Paramore or Interpol in a few years.

Crowe 12-22-2007 05:51 PM

I bet you all the beans in Mexico that there are more Creedites than there are Paramore/Interpol followers. I say this because the South exists. I'm from the South, so I know what I'm talking about here.

TheBig3 12-22-2007 05:58 PM

Uh yeah, the genre formerly known as emo replaced post-grunge, but it got passed up as post-grunge was burning. I remember when "feel in love with a girl" got played next to the one-hit wonder of the PG era, and when Dead leaves hit, they rememebred bands could be larger than on-hit wonders...like the Drowning Pool song they had just heard.

TheBig3 12-22-2007 06:00 PM

And no, the knock off's aren't played here. They still play STP, Nirvana, Pearl Jam and the Pumpkins but not the awful **** that plagued us from '97 on.

jackhammer 12-22-2007 06:03 PM

Flame me all you like but ICKY THUMP has barely registered with me. I have played the album maybe 3 or 4 times. I can hear nothing new on it. This would not normally bother me as I truly believe the edict-if music is good then who cares about originality. However ICKY THUMP is being proclaimed in many places as one of the releases of the year, I think I am really missing something here.


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