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Dr_Rez 10-19-2007 11:46 PM

Music Snobs
 
Urban Dictionary: music snob

music snob

A person who believes s/he has a more refined taste in music and has much more knowledge in the field of music in general. Every song and genre is unacceptable unless the snob happens to like it, then it is absolute perfection. Music snobs feel obligated to enlighten everyone with unwelcome critiques and irrelivant musical trivia.

Person 1: That ******* turns her nose up at anything that isn't part of her narrow, carefully hand picked library of music.
Person 2: Music snob?
Person 1: Definitely.

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Dr_Rez 10-19-2007 11:51 PM

A better definition V

music snob



An especially irritating breed of tool, the music snob is a self described authority on what is or is not "good" music. The genre is irrelavant, as music snobs somehow confuse their subjective opinions with objective concrete facts across all genres of music. The music snob is quick to write off your taste in music, and often spout proudly a large number of "better" unknown and/or less "commercial" bands that if you had as good of taste as they did, you would already know about and love. The music snob can be found at low budget local record stores, probably arguing with a clerk about how no good bands cds are for sale. The music snob often prides themselves on their, again, self described "non-conformist" ; interests, and everyone else is merely a braindead product of MTV. The music snob fails to realize the definition of the word opinion: 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal., and instead dilludes themselves into thinking that their opinions are more valid than those of anyone whos differ.

Music Snob: Oh my god, is that (insert band here), they suck, they are totally (insert bizzare music sub-genre) not real (insert music genre). If you werent such a sheep youd listen to (insert 1, to an indefinate number of obscure/unpopular bands).

Person#2: Wow you are one annoying ***got ass music snob, why dont you go choke on a **** and die while listening to (insert a likely crappy band they mentioned) you ass sucking bitch ****.

sleepy jack 10-19-2007 11:55 PM

To be fair, most of the people bashing Dream Theater said things along the lines of "Good musicians, too bad they make such robotic noodley shit."

Sound Devastation 10-20-2007 12:38 AM

we've had this thread already.. in which (if i remember rightly) most members admitted to full-on music snobbery :P

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-20-2007 07:19 AM

My definition of 'music snob'

Someone who criticizes the bands YOU like.

I do find it kind of funny that it's perfectly ok to bash the likes of Avril Lavigne , Britney Spears , Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance because obviously those artists are sh*t

Yet as soon as you start saying things about the Smashing Pumpkins , Foo Fighters and yes even the Red Hot Chili Peppers it's not because they're rubbish , it all of a sudden becomes 'musical snobbery' , and if you hate them it's because you are a music snob.

Which is of course utter rubbish

And why the hell shouldn't I be picky about what I like , I invest a lot of time & money in music & 2 things I hate doing the most is wasting my time & wasting money.If I think your album is sh*t i'll say it's ****. I don't care if you are Avril Lavigne , Billy Corgan or Ian Mackaye , make no difference to me.

anticipation 10-20-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 408495)
My definition of 'music snob'

Someone who criticizes the bands YOU like.

I do find it kind of funny that it's perfectly ok to bash the likes of Avril Lavigne , Britney Spears , Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance because obviously those artists are sh*t

Yet as soon as you start saying things about the Smashing Pumpkins , Foo Fighters and yes even the Red Hot Chili Peppers it's not because they're rubbish , it all of a sudden becomes 'musical snobbery' , and if you hate them it's because you are a music snob.

Which is of course utter rubbish

And why the hell shouldn't I be picky about what I like , I invest a lot of time & money in music & 2 things I hate doing the most is wasting my time & wasting money.If I think your album is sh*t i'll say it's ****. I don't care if you are Avril Lavigne , Billy Corgan or Ian Mackaye , make no difference to me.

yeah, this thread just got suprise buttsecks'd.

TheBig3 10-20-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 408448)
ex: Dream Theater. You may not like them, i could see how. But i have seen countless people go off on how there simply fret wankers and suck is absolutely ****ing stupid to say. There music may not be good, but what they do takes TONS of talent and cant even come close to being mimicked by many of todays bands.

Alright so then they're very talented people. How that translates to the music that they make seems non-linear. I'm very talented myself. I can retain useless information and dominate pub trivia like you read about. Its a talent. I still make ****ty music. And I wonder how intentional your word choice of "can't" was.

I mean to say, is it that bands cannot mimic them or that they will not mimic them?

jackhammer 10-20-2007 12:07 PM

Fret Wanker is copyrighted by myself. Dream Theatre don't suck. I just can't stand them, get over it. You may hate lots of my music, not bothered at all.

Frances 10-20-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 408495)
My definition of 'music snob'

Someone who criticizes the bands YOU like.

I do find it kind of funny that it's perfectly ok to bash the likes of Avril Lavigne , Britney Spears , Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance because obviously those artists are sh*t

Yet as soon as you start saying things about the Smashing Pumpkins , Foo Fighters and yes even the Red Hot Chili Peppers it's not because they're rubbish , it all of a sudden becomes 'musical snobbery' , and if you hate them it's because you are a music snob.

Which is of course utter rubbish

And why the hell shouldn't I be picky about what I like , I invest a lot of time & money in music & 2 things I hate doing the most is wasting my time & wasting money.If I think your album is sh*t i'll say it's ****. I don't care if you are Avril Lavigne , Billy Corgan or Ian Mackaye , make no difference to me.

Yay!

riseagainstrocks 10-20-2007 07:34 PM

< --- is a music elitist/snob and proud of it.

So what if I took the time to look into obscure bands and hae a large knowledge about what interests me. Better music than something ***gy like the drama on the Hills.

swim 10-20-2007 07:48 PM

A music forum with elitists? Oh my god, get the fuck out, no wai!!!

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 10-20-2007 10:19 PM

music elitists? in my internet?

Stone Birds 07-22-2010 01:52 PM

Urban Dictionary: music snob

music snobs exist on every site, they annoy me so much i mean i know i act a little close-minded sometimes but i've never gone as far as saying an entire genre isn't music

midnight rain 07-22-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 904658)
Urban Dictionary: music snob

music snobs exist on every site, they annoy me so much i mean i know i act a little close-minded sometimes but i've never gone as far as saying an entire genre isn't music

well i don't know if you're referring to something specific or not, but i think it's stupid to join a music forum and not expect it to be full of music snobs. saying you don't like a band is completely in line with the intentions of the site

TheCunningStunt 07-22-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 408495)
My definition of 'music snob'

Someone who criticizes the bands YOU like.

I do find it kind of funny that it's perfectly ok to bash the likes of Avril Lavigne , Britney Spears , Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance because obviously those artists are sh*t

Yet as soon as you start saying things about the Smashing Pumpkins , Foo Fighters and yes even the Red Hot Chili Peppers it's not because they're rubbish , it all of a sudden becomes 'musical snobbery' , and if you hate them it's because you are a music snob.

This pretty much sums things up really.. I think if "music snobbery" didn't exist, people posting on a site like this would be pointless. There would be no discussion.

Stone Birds 07-22-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 904673)
well i don't know if you're referring to something specific or not, but i think it's stupid to join a music forum and not expect it to be full of music snobs. saying you don't like a band is completely in line with the intentions of the site

i'm just saying they're annoying and i'm mostly this was towards other musicians who are music snobs a lot of times when i make a song even if i don't tell the person about the song or anything they have to make comments like "this isn't even music" or "you should quit while you aren't ahead" and other annoying unconstructive comments i know without their existense a lot of music wouldn't exist but that doesn't mean i have to like them

James 07-22-2010 02:49 PM

If you have a problem with music snobs, don't listen to **** music. Simple.

Janszoon 07-22-2010 02:55 PM

I think it's safe to say that everybody on MB is a music snob in some sense.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-22-2010 02:57 PM

Is it really snobbery to say you don't like something though?

I don't think of it as snobbery, I just think of it as honest opinion.

CanwllCorfe 07-22-2010 02:59 PM

Agreed with UH. I'll like what I like and hate what I hate. The only thing that should really be frowned upon is when someone won't give a band or genre a chance. Even if you end up hating it at least you TRIED it. I mean, for all we know there could be millions of closeted Brenoritvrezorkre fans who don't even know yet.

Stone Birds 07-22-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 904693)
I think it's safe to say that everybody on MB is a music snob in some sense.

i agree

midnight rain 07-22-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 904684)
i'm just saying they're annoying and i'm mostly this was towards other musicians who are music snobs a lot of times when i make a song even if i don't tell the person about the song or anything they have to make comments like "this isn't even music" or "you should quit while you aren't ahead" and other annoying unconstructive comments i know without their existense a lot of music wouldn't exist but that doesn't mean i have to like them

i'll agree with you there that if it's music you're creating people should at least provide constructive criticism if they don't like it. did this happen to you on MB?

Stone Birds 07-22-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 904703)
i'll agree with you there that if it's music you're creating people should at least provide constructive criticism if they don't like it. did this happen to you on MB?

probably, but it was actually more on indaba, and sometimes in real life, but only a few people are like this

Zer0 07-22-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 904693)
I think it's safe to say that everybody on MB is a music snob in some sense.

Truth. MB has turned us all into music snobs without us even realising. Whenever i discuss music on another forum or in real life i realise how much of a snob i am haha.

P A N 07-22-2010 05:34 PM

i think music snobs exist because there is really crappy music being fed to people.

DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER.

Stone Birds 07-22-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zevokes (Post 904769)
i think music snobs exist because there is really crappy music being fed to people.

DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER.

"crappy" is an opionion i guarantee every artist we all listen to there is atleast 100 people who think it's crap

Schizotypic 07-22-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 904810)
"crappy" is an opionion i guarantee every artist we all listen to there is atleast 100 people who think it's crap

Yeah I think there's really no good reason to rag on any music. Sometimes I'll throw on My Chemical Romance or an old Smash Mouth song, or that"I Miss You" song by Blink182 that usually cracks me up just for old times sake, and other times I just feel like listening to them for some reason. Yesterday I was listening to that Womanizer song by Brittney on my girlfriends ipod.

My point being anyone who would put them self above me for doing so is a music snob... which sucks for them because how much fun can it be listening to music at least in part to boost-up your ego?

As far as their being a bunch of music snobs on the site- I haven't counted, don't remember, and don't care.

gunnels 07-22-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Schizotypic (Post 904832)
Yeah I think there's really no good reason to rag on any music. Sometimes I'll throw on My Chemical Romance or an old Smash Mouth song, or that"I Miss You" song by Blink182 that usually cracks me up just for old times sake, and other times I just feel like listening to them for some reason. Yesterday I was listening to that Womanizer song by Brittney on my girlfriends ipod.

My point being anyone who would put them self above me for doing so is a music snob... which sucks for them because how much fun can it be listening to music at least in part to boost-up your ego?

As far as their being a bunch of music snobs on the site- I haven't counted, don't remember, and don't care.

Amen.

Dr.Seussicide 07-22-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Schizotypic (Post 904832)
Yeah I think there's really no good reason to rag on any music. Sometimes I'll throw on My Chemical Romance or an old Smash Mouth song, or that"I Miss You" song by Blink182 that usually cracks me up just for old times sake, and other times I just feel like listening to them for some reason. Yesterday I was listening to that Womanizer song by Brittney on my girlfriends ipod.

My point being anyone who would put them self above me for doing so is a music snob... which sucks for them because how much fun can it be listening to music at least in part to boost-up your ego?

As far as their being a bunch of music snobs on the site- I haven't counted, don't remember, and don't care.

What's wrong with MCR? ;)

Janszoon 07-22-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 904745)
Truth. MB has turned us all into music snobs without us even realising. Whenever i discuss music on another forum or in real life i realise how much of a snob i am haha.

I don't even mean in a bad way really. I'm just saying if you post on a site like this regularly you're obviously very into music and people who are super-passionate about music are definitely what the rest of the world thinks of as music snobs.

Charlemagne 07-22-2010 11:17 PM

In the original post, does anyone else think that person #2 turns out to be just as much of a music snob as the intended music snob? I mean being incredibly hostile toward the "music snob" and insulting him/her and dissing the band they like?

Dr_Rez 07-22-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 904880)
I don't even mean in a bad way really. I'm just saying if you post on a site like this regularly you're obviously very into music and people who are super-passionate about music are definitely what the rest of the world thinks of as music snobs.

Snobbery is easily avoided by considering all styles of creating sound.

Anteater 07-22-2010 11:29 PM

I don't really see the problem with being a music snob as long as you have a good attitude: the only thing I'm remotely elitist about is what I consider to be a good pop hook. :P

Besides a few minor things, I like to remain flexible, and I'm also quite happy that places like MB exist for people who want to discuss something else musically related besides the latest Indie pop sensation, how hot Lady GaGa's latest music video is, how "amazing and talented" Taylor Swift is, etc. If I want that kind of musically insipid conversation, I can easily turn off my PC and hit up my mall-going amigos whenever I get time off work.

So while nothing against MCR and the like, I do get tired of people talking about how great bands like them are when they obviously don't know anything beyond what their own little friends tell them or seeing whoever pulls a Grammy out of their ass on live television.

I'm curious about music and finding new things beyond Justin Bieber and whatever stupid rap/pop collaboration is blaring from KissFM, and I find it enjoyable to converse with people who find enjoyment likewise. Hence, what's wrong with a bit of musical snobbery online? I don't get to be much of one in everyday life after all...

CanwllCorfe 07-22-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlemagne (Post 904961)
In the original post, does anyone else think that person #2 turns out to be just as much of a music snob as the intended music snob? I mean being incredibly hostile toward the "music snob" and insulting him/her and dissing the band they like?

Oh, definitely. One time (not on this site) I posted a song in a "Song of the Day" topic and I posted something from Voodoo Records. I said, "Death Blues? Sure Alright". Simply because they have a lot of funny names like that describing their music and he completely lost it. He thought I was one of those people who, for example, labeled a Grindcore song as "Death Thrash Hard Cyber Grind" or something. He just went off on how music is just expression and it can't be labeled (when he does it all the time with **** I never even heard of). It pissed me off a good bit but I called him a cum guzzling faggot and felt better then.

Freebase Dali 07-22-2010 11:35 PM

Opinion itself is snobism if we want to get loose with this. Be an inanimate object for a day. You'll then know what it's like to be completely free of any bias.

Deal with it. It's inevitable.

cupkayke 07-23-2010 02:43 AM

How interesting, but as said practically everyone is snobby about their music. Some people just show it more, and there are others who take it to the extreme. I don't feel like there's much wrong with criticism based on a personal opinion, but it's comments such as what the Pretty Reckless singer/Gossip Girl actress, Taylor Momsen said that has me rolling my eyes.

"Where is the real music? What happened to Zeppelin, and people who play their own instruments? There's always going to be pop but it's not real music, it's not me."

Get what you will from it, but it just irritates me. Led Zeppelin stopped being an active band before she was born, had two reunions, and managed another when she was around two years old. When I was her age I enjoyed name dropping too but she's probably the biggest music snob I've ever seen quotes from. She has plenty more where that came from too. Pop is music, it may not be her type of music, but it's still music to other people. Now I feel like going out and asking "What happened to Mozart?" whenever I spot someone jamming on an electric piano.

Goblin Tears 07-23-2010 03:29 PM

You know, in my teens, I probably fit the definition of 'music snob'. Used to listen to outlandish music that nobody ever heard of...then as time went on, I assimilated more commericial music into my library, even the stuff you see on MTV. I realized that while the likes of Rihanna and Britney may not be world-class pianists, or even possess anything much in terms of music aptitude when compared to Beethoven, they still make suitable conduits for talented producers. It's all a joint effort. If you look at such pop-manufactured products as a whole package, and not just a summation of one hypersexual image, it all becomes easier to digest.

In other words, for those wondering what the **** I'm talking about, be as open-minded and non-judgemental as you can, and if you dislike something, fair enough. Just don't hate on something because it's a trend or due to lack of information. A LOT of the time people hate on artists they are very unfamiliar (and unwilling to become familiar) with.

Janszoon 07-23-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 904963)
Snobbery is easily avoided by considering all styles of creating sound.

I think you're kind of missing the point I was making. Freebase Dali sums it up well in the quote below. All I'm saying is the situation is significantly amplified for people who are really into music (or really into anything for that matter).

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 904974)
Opinion itself is snobism if we want to get loose with this. Be an inanimate object for a day. You'll then know what it's like to be completely free of any bias.

Deal with it. It's inevitable.


boo boo 07-23-2010 03:32 PM

If I rewrote webster's dictionary, the definition for music snob would plain and simply be a link to Pitchfork.

TheCunningStunt 07-23-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 905291)
If I rewrote webster's dictionary, the definition for music snob would plain and simply be a link to Pitchfork.

Being anti-all things popular and being a music snob are different though, in some ways. But they can cross over. Pitchfork seem like c*nts. I never really knew about them before I started to listen to 'Wavves'.


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