Music Snobs

Charlemagne · 07-23-2010, 12:17 AM

In the original post, does anyone else think that person #2 turns out to be just as much of a music snob as the intended music snob? I mean being incredibly hostile toward the "music snob" and insulting him/her and dissing the band they like?

Dr_Rez · 07-23-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I don't even mean in a bad way really. I'm just saying if you post on a site like this regularly you're obviously very into music and people who are super-passionate about music are definitely what the rest of the world thinks of as music snobs.

Snobbery is easily avoided by considering all styles of creating sound.

Anteater · 07-23-2010, 12:29 AM

I don't really see the problem with being a music snob as long as you have a good attitude: the only thing I'm remotely elitist about is what I consider to be a good pop hook. :P

Besides a few minor things, I like to remain flexible, and I'm also quite happy that places like MB exist for people who want to discuss something else musically related besides the latest Indie pop sensation, how hot Lady GaGa's latest music video is, how "amazing and talented" Taylor Swift is, etc. If I want that kind of musically insipid conversation, I can easily turn off my PC and hit up my mall-going amigos whenever I get time off work.

So while nothing against MCR and the like, I do get tired of people talking about how great bands like them are when they obviously don't know anything beyond what their own little friends tell them or seeing whoever pulls a Grammy out of their ass on live television.

I'm curious about music and finding new things beyond Justin Bieber and whatever stupid rap/pop collaboration is blaring from KissFM, and I find it enjoyable to converse with people who find enjoyment likewise. Hence, what's wrong with a bit of musical snobbery online? I don't get to be much of one in everyday life after all...

CanwllCorfe · 07-23-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlemagne

In the original post, does anyone else think that person #2 turns out to be just as much of a music snob as the intended music snob? I mean being incredibly hostile toward the "music snob" and insulting him/her and dissing the band they like?

Oh, definitely. One time (not on this site) I posted a song in a "Song of the Day" topic and I posted something from Voodoo Records. I said, "Death Blues? Sure Alright". Simply because they have a lot of funny names like that describing their music and he completely lost it. He thought I was one of those people who, for example, labeled a Grindcore song as "Death Thrash Hard Cyber Grind" or something. He just went off on how music is just expression and it can't be labeled (when he does it all the time with **** I never even heard of). It pissed me off a good bit but I called him a cum guzzling faggot and felt better then.

Freebase Dali · 07-23-2010, 12:35 AM

Opinion itself is snobism if we want to get loose with this. Be an inanimate object for a day. You'll then know what it's like to be completely free of any bias.

Deal with it. It's inevitable.

cupkayke · 07-23-2010, 03:43 AM

How interesting, but as said practically everyone is snobby about their music. Some people just show it more, and there are others who take it to the extreme. I don't feel like there's much wrong with criticism based on a personal opinion, but it's comments such as what the Pretty Reckless singer/Gossip Girl actress, Taylor Momsen said that has me rolling my eyes.

"Where is the real music? What happened to Zeppelin, and people who play their own instruments? There's always going to be pop but it's not real music, it's not me."

Get what you will from it, but it just irritates me. Led Zeppelin stopped being an active band before she was born, had two reunions, and managed another when she was around two years old. When I was her age I enjoyed name dropping too but she's probably the biggest music snob I've ever seen quotes from. She has plenty more where that came from too. Pop is music, it may not be her type of music, but it's still music to other people. Now I feel like going out and asking "What happened to Mozart?" whenever I spot someone jamming on an electric piano.

Goblin Tears · 07-23-2010, 04:29 PM

You know, in my teens, I probably fit the definition of 'music snob'. Used to listen to outlandish music that nobody ever heard of...then as time went on, I assimilated more commericial music into my library, even the stuff you see on MTV. I realized that while the likes of Rihanna and Britney may not be world-class pianists, or even possess anything much in terms of music aptitude when compared to Beethoven, they still make suitable conduits for talented producers. It's all a joint effort. If you look at such pop-manufactured products as a whole package, and not just a summation of one hypersexual image, it all becomes easier to digest.

In other words, for those wondering what the **** I'm talking about, be as open-minded and non-judgemental as you can, and if you dislike something, fair enough. Just don't hate on something because it's a trend or due to lack of information. A LOT of the time people hate on artists they are very unfamiliar (and unwilling to become familiar) with.

**Janszoon** · 07-23-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

Snobbery is easily avoided by considering all styles of creating sound.

I think you're kind of missing the point I was making. Freebase Dali sums it up well in the quote below. All I'm saying is the situation is significantly amplified for people who are really into music (or really into anything for that matter).

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Opinion itself is snobism if we want to get loose with this. Be an inanimate object for a day. You'll then know what it's like to be completely free of any bias.

Deal with it. It's inevitable.

boo boo · 07-23-2010, 04:32 PM

If I rewrote webster's dictionary, the definition for music snob would plain and simply be a link to Pitchfork.

TheCunningStunt · 07-23-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

If I rewrote webster's dictionary, the definition for music snob would plain and simply be a link to Pitchfork.

Being anti-all things popular and being a music snob are different though, in some ways. But they can cross over. Pitchfork seem like c*nts. I never really knew about them before I started to listen to 'Wavves'.

07-23-2010, 12:17 AM	#31 (permalink)
Charlemagne Say something vague Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,551	In the original post, does anyone else think that person #2 turns out to be just as much of a music snob as the intended music snob? I mean being incredibly hostile toward the "music snob" and insulting him/her and dissing the band they like? __________________ Charlemagne had eyes like a lover, but last winter there was weather and his eyes they iced right over. My Last.fm

07-23-2010, 12:35 AM	#35 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Opinion itself is snobism if we want to get loose with this. Be an inanimate object for a day. You'll then know what it's like to be completely free of any bias. Deal with it. It's inevitable.

07-23-2010, 03:43 AM	#36 (permalink)
cupkayke Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: steinbeck lands. Posts: 38	How interesting, but as said practically everyone is snobby about their music. Some people just show it more, and there are others who take it to the extreme. I don't feel like there's much wrong with criticism based on a personal opinion, but it's comments such as what the Pretty Reckless singer/Gossip Girl actress, Taylor Momsen said that has me rolling my eyes. "Where is the real music? What happened to Zeppelin, and people who play their own instruments? There's always going to be pop but it's not real music, it's not me." Get what you will from it, but it just irritates me. Led Zeppelin stopped being an active band before she was born, had two reunions, and managed another when she was around two years old. When I was her age I enjoyed name dropping too but she's probably the biggest music snob I've ever seen quotes from. She has plenty more where that came from too. Pop is music, it may not be her type of music, but it's still music to other people. Now I feel like going out and asking "What happened to Mozart?" whenever I spot someone jamming on an electric piano.

07-23-2010, 04:29 PM	#37 (permalink)
Goblin Tears Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 337	You know, in my teens, I probably fit the definition of 'music snob'. Used to listen to outlandish music that nobody ever heard of...then as time went on, I assimilated more commericial music into my library, even the stuff you see on MTV. I realized that while the likes of Rihanna and Britney may not be world-class pianists, or even possess anything much in terms of music aptitude when compared to Beethoven, they still make suitable conduits for talented producers. It's all a joint effort. If you look at such pop-manufactured products as a whole package, and not just a summation of one hypersexual image, it all becomes easier to digest. In other words, for those wondering what the **** I'm talking about, be as open-minded and non-judgemental as you can, and if you dislike something, fair enough. Just don't hate on something because it's a trend or due to lack of information. A LOT of the time people hate on artists they are very unfamiliar (and unwilling to become familiar) with.