Music Snobs

**Janszoon** · 08-05-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by boardsofcanada

@boo boo

Yes, prog is considered snobby. I've been called snobby for liking the newer prog stuff (Battles, The Mars Volta, An awful lot of Math-Rock/Post Rock) and liking the older prog stuff. It's a fact that Prog has been called a snobby genre, but the people who call it snobby are biased and it's a known fact that Rolling Stone doesn't know crap about music so they can't call anything (especially prog) snobby.

Watch out! Boobs gets upset if you associate post-rock with prog.

Dayvan Cowboy · 08-05-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Watch out! Boobs gets upset if you associate post-rock with prog.

well, post rock wouldn't exist without prog, ya know.

they have an awful lot to do with each other.

**Janszoon** · 08-05-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by boardsofcanada

well, post rock wouldn't exist without prog, ya know.

they have an awful lot to do with each other.

I agree. I'm just saying boobs gets upset if you mention this fact.

Dayvan Cowboy · 08-05-2010, 09:38 AM

whoops. sorry then.

Anteater · 08-05-2010, 10:09 AM

I dunno guys, I've seen more snobbery in the Indie pop-rock and hardcore-related demographics than in punk & prog. circles nowadays.

boo boo · 08-05-2010, 10:20 AM

I think snobbery is common in every genre fanbase.

Of course the prog fans on MB (myself included) are f*cking awesome. But you know how the PA community is and how ridiculous the reviews can get, I think I've shown you reviews from Ivan Melgar Morey and ExitTheLemming before.

The punks here are pretty cool for the most part so I'm not writing off the whole punk community. That "field guide to genre snobs" post was hyperbole for comedic effect and me just taking the piss on everybody.

VEGANGELICA · 08-21-2010, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass

Music Snob: Oh my god, is that (insert band here), they suck, they are totally (insert bizzare music sub-genre) not real (insert music genre). If you werent such a sheep youd listen to (insert 1, to an indefinate number of obscure/unpopular bands).

I feel having strong musical preferences, knowing a lot about music, and saying one hates certain music doesn't make one a snob...but calling a person a sheep and putting a person down because of her or his musical tastes definitely sounds like a snobbish thing to do!

I feel there is no logical rationale for feeling one type of music is "better" than another, any more than there is for saying one color is better or more appealing than another. Watching people fight over what type of music is better is like watching people fight over whether green or blue is a better color. I don't feel such a fight means the people are snobs. It just means they don't appreciate that the value of art is subjective, or they want their viewpoint to be understood.

mr dave · 08-21-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I feel having strong musical preferences, knowing a lot about music, and saying one hates certain music doesn't make one a snob...but calling a person a sheep and putting a person down because of her or his musical tastes definitely sounds like a snobbish thing to do!

agreed. on the other hand, i think anyone claiming that they like every style of music possible is a whole other kind of snob. maybe idealistic rather than esoteric or something like that. to deny one's individual taste so you can front baseless appreciation for styles one doesn't truly care about based on outward social perceptions strikes me as ultimate snobbery.

SaintSwan · 08-21-2010, 06:37 PM

I tend to mostly ignore music snobs, partly because of their arrogance, but mainly because of their narrow focus. Too often I have taken their advice and tried out a new artist only to find the new artist very one note. Like Metal bands who only play one kind of song because melody equates to selling out. Or Rock bands who want to do something different and end up not being rock bands. The snob looks for the different as if different is inherently good when different is just inherently different.

Nothing wrong with going out of your comfort zone from time to time and trying something new but when recommending something for people outside of their comfort zone I'm not going to recommend the most strange and obscure band that does that kind of music, I'd recommend a gateway drug kind of band. Like if you were introducing someone to Metallica it would probably help if you started with the black album rather than with Kill 'em all.

Some of those snobs might be actually honest in their recommendations (as if they think you might actually like that group) but I find most fall in one of two camps: The ones who want you to be impressed with how non-mainstream they are and the ones who want to feel superior intellectually to you for not 'getting' it. And if they recommended something you might ACTUALLY like, they wouldn't get to feel superior to you.

Dr.Seussicide · 08-21-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintSwan

I tend to mostly ignore music snobs, partly because of their arrogance, but mainly because of their narrow focus. Too often I have taken their advice and tried out a new artist only to find the new artist very one note. Like Metal bands who only play one kind of song because melody equates to selling out. Or Rock bands who want to do something different and end up not being rock bands. The snob looks for the different as if different is inherently good when different is just inherently different.

Nothing wrong with going out of your comfort zone from time to time and trying something new but when recommending something for people outside of their comfort zone I'm not going to recommend the most strange and obscure band that does that kind of music, I'd recommend a gateway drug kind of band. Like if you were introducing someone to Metallica it would probably help if you started with the black album rather than with Kill 'em all.

Some of those snobs might be actually honest in their recommendations (as if they think you might actually like that group) but I find most fall in one of two camps: The ones who want you to be impressed with how non-mainstream they are and the ones who want to feel superior intellectually to you for not 'getting' it. And if they recommended something you might ACTUALLY like, they wouldn't get to feel superior to you.

I think you've been talking with the wrong music snobs

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SaintSwan Groupie Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Airdrie, AB Posts: 29	I tend to mostly ignore music snobs, partly because of their arrogance, but mainly because of their narrow focus. Too often I have taken their advice and tried out a new artist only to find the new artist very one note. Like Metal bands who only play one kind of song because melody equates to selling out. Or Rock bands who want to do something different and end up not being rock bands. The snob looks for the different as if different is inherently good when different is just inherently different. Nothing wrong with going out of your comfort zone from time to time and trying something new but when recommending something for people outside of their comfort zone I'm not going to recommend the most strange and obscure band that does that kind of music, I'd recommend a gateway drug kind of band. Like if you were introducing someone to Metallica it would probably help if you started with the black album rather than with Kill 'em all. Some of those snobs might be actually honest in their recommendations (as if they think you might actually like that group) but I find most fall in one of two camps: The ones who want you to be impressed with how non-mainstream they are and the ones who want to feel superior intellectually to you for not 'getting' it. And if they recommended something you might ACTUALLY like, they wouldn't get to feel superior to you. __________________ Whine bitch moan, rinse and repeat.

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