Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

Unknown Soldier · 02-02-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unrelenting

I feel as though the kind of people that mindlessly praise nirvana are the people who just started listening to "alternative" music. Nirvana is decent and was fairly influential on mainstream music (for better or worse is debatable) but they are by no means the best band ever. I was one such person who worshipped nirvana's music when I was younger, I grew out of it.

When I was younger I never really liked them that much, but as I got older I grew into them.

Unrelenting · 02-02-2012, 04:43 PM

To each their own. Different strokes and all. I listen to them from time to time still, not really often at all anymore.

Neapolitan · 02-02-2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unrelenting

I feel as though the kind of people that mindlessly praise nirvana are the people who just started listening to "alternative" music. Nirvana is decent and was fairly influential on mainstream music (for better or worse is debatable) but they are by no means the best band ever. I was one such person who worshipped nirvana's music when I was younger, I grew out of it.

Since Nirvana broke the charts before other Seattle bands did they are considered the flag-ship of Grunge but some people swear up and down that they started it all (e.i. Alt-Rock) so I know what you are saying. I never really cared too much about them, preferring other Grunge bands to them like Soundgarden and STP.

starrynight · 02-03-2012, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

But generally speaking the original song is superior to the cover song (good example is "Ooh Child" by The Five Stairsteps") but there are a few exemptions to this rule.

There are can be several cover songs of some songs though, and some may be good. Cover songs don't have to be people just trying to make a quicd

There is a paradigm of music taste that is like who cares who wrote the song, who cares who plays the instruments etc etc. The reason I brought up "versatility" to counter that pov. There are enough people who sing the praise of Michael Jackson as the greatest but if music talent is brought in as a criteria than Stevie Wonder is greater Michael Jackson, no doubt

There can be quite a few cover versions of some songs though, and not all of them are inappropriate or just trying to make a quick buck by over-copying the original. Cover versions can be creative and reflect some creativity of the new musicians involved. People are often so used to the original that they aren't willing to give another version a chance.

Versatility can sometimes matter, it really depends on the circumstances. You can get very versatile people who can do lots of things but are very average in all of them, and some who do a lot less but really excel in what they do. So it's hard to do broad generlisations on that.

As for grunge, like anything that gets lots of hype, it will be very overrated at times.

Howard the Duck · 02-03-2012, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

There is a paradigm of music taste that is like who cares who wrote the song, who cares who plays the instruments etc etc. The reason I brought up "versatility" to counter that pov. There are enough people who sing the praise of Michael Jackson as the greatest but if music talent is brought in as a criteria than Stevie Wonder is greater Michael Jackson, no doubt

if you want to pit Stevie against Michael, i'd say this:-

i like Off The Wall and love Thriller, haven't heard the others nor I intend to, but his work with Jacksons after they left Motown is mostly good

Stevie, i love Innervisions and like most of Songs in the Key of Life, but the other stuff during his "classic" period I don't really like much

so, for me, Stevie only had a slight edge, and also because Stevie mostly used the technology of his time, his stuff tend to sound a bit dated, whereas Michael's classic stuff are mostly analogue

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Since Nirvana broke the charts before other Seattle bands did they are considered the flag-ship of Grunge but some people swear up and down that they started it all (e.i. Alt-Rock) so I know what you are saying. I never really cared too much about them, preferring other Grunge bands to them like Soundgarden and STP.

i prefer Alice In Chains over all three

and i don't think STP were ever "grunge", they sound more like stoner-ish cock-rock

starrynight · 02-03-2012, 06:16 AM

I also find Stevie Wonder a bit patchy, Song in the Key of Life is the most consistent for me. And I'd say Thriller is easily Michael Jackson't best. Overall Stevie Wonder's creative period perhaps lasted a bit longer than Jackson's.

eurochild · 02-04-2012, 06:01 PM

Günther is an extremely underrated poet. The way he describes love is just so... magnificant.

"I don't love you because you're beautiful
you're beautiful
because I love you"

(insert irony mark here)

Mondo Bungle · 02-04-2012, 06:21 PM

Demilich is overrated.

**Frownland** · 02-04-2012, 10:47 PM

Jandek may have his cult-following, but I think that he deserves a brighter spotlight. If any incumbent folk player released Blue Corpse or Chair Beside the Window, then it would be described as innovative genius by the masses. But since Jandek self released it, the mainstream music reviewers who have a heard voice at places such as Rolling Stone and other critical music publishers consider it (or rather they fail to even do that much) as a self indulgent piece of garbage that is naught but moaning and twiddling the guitar.

Howard the Duck · 02-05-2012, 03:41 AM

^^I can't stand much of Jandek besides his funk-rock stuff

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Jandek may have his cult-following, but I think that he deserves a brighter spotlight. If any incumbent folk player released Blue Corpse or Chair Beside the Window, then it would be described as innovative genius by the masses. But since Jandek self released it, the mainstream music reviewers who have a heard voice at places such as Rolling Stone and other critical music publishers consider it (or rather they fail to even do that much) as a self indulgent piece of garbage that is naught but moaning and twiddling the guitar. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x