Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

~~Farfisa~~ · 01-19-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

Wow, everyone is ganging up against me. I am sorry if I am breaking Lady Gaga fans heart. I really am. No surprise. I guess I am the few who thinks Gaga is overrated. Who cares. I am glad I am different from everyone else. I think this should be called Lady Gaga Banter. That would be a better title.

Just shut up, and leave. We don't like you because you give the same tired argument and completely ignore whatever we say.

Electrophonic Tonic · 01-19-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by William Zanzinger

But in all seriousness, how could the production influence the longevity of an album?

If it's really good for the time and influences other to follow suit, it does. There have been a lot of albums that have broken ground for production techniques and quality. The Beatles just have the extra perk of being the most recognizable name in music, so it's just magnified.

Before this thread gets shut down, I don't think Sgt. Pepper is as overrated as some of my peers say it is. If anything, it's the early Beatles work that is all fluff and no substance. It's not because it's bad, but because it doesn't separate itself from the other British Invasion works of the time. Pretty much 95% of their work from their breakthrough up to the time they did 'Ticket to Ride' and 'I Feel Fine' is on par with everyone else.

starrynight · 01-20-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

That's the nature of Pop music. Bands come and go but very few achieve longevity because someone else will come along next year and last years favourite flavour will be this years shit covered stick in the bargain bin at your local charity shop.

It is not really worth sweating over something that is hugely popular if you know it's crap. You won't change the minds of the blind masses out there so let them get on with it.

As for Bob Marley. Yes he was a sincere artist. Yes he was a decent songwriter but it was definitely right place at the right time. .

But Bob Marley is 'rock'? And yet he can just be fashion too. Exactly how you define what is rock and what is pop is far from easy anyway. But really you could just as easily argue that most of rock dates and is just fashion just as much as pop and that there is just as much throwaway rock as there is pop. And the fact that pop is constantly changing could be indicative of the constant creativity in the melting pot of styles it can represent. Depending on how you define 'rock' you could say that style has also mean another melting pot of styles too. Rock and pop are such general terms when people use them often. And some things that sell a lot of records can actually be pretty good. And all styles become dated (but only until they are resurrected in retro style?) but does that mean they are no longer listenable? The classical baroque style really became outdated and nobody composed much in it after it ended but we can still like it today if we make the effort to understand it (same with any style).

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Originally Posted by William Zanzinger

Probably opening a can of worms here, but I think some classic albums require reassessment in the cold light of an almost new millenium.
Pour moi (a diehard Beatles fan, btw), Sergeant Pepper is the most over rated album ever.
There are at most, four songs which are decent-the rest (Lovely Rita, Within you, Fixing a Hole,When I`m 64 etc) are ordinary at best.
The album does capture the spirit of psychedelia, possibly the zitgheist of the age, but it`s no way the best Beatles album.
Revolver, Rubber Soul, With the Beatles and Abbey Road were all far superior.
Likewise Sticky Fingers by the Stones-two or three good tracks and then zilch.
Anyway-discuss....

I think it's a pretty good album. Good Morning, Mr Kite and Within You might be the weakest but other songs have been covered quite a lot. Abbey Road is more consistent though. Mr Kite for me is an example of where the production probably is too important in making the song work, but others like When I'm 64 hardly has much production to it. Then again maybe we shouldn't always separate the production from a song and should accept it as being just a well crafted work of sonic art, just like a great painting is often not redone in a new way? And personally I wouldn't compare The Rolling Stones to The Beatles.

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic

If it's really good for the time and influences other to follow suit, it does. There have been a lot of albums that have broken ground for production techniques and quality. The Beatles just have the extra perk of being the most recognizable name in music, so it's just magnified.

Before this thread gets shut down, I don't think Sgt. Pepper is as overrated as some of my peers say it is. If anything, it's the early Beatles work that is all fluff and no substance. It's not because it's bad, but because it doesn't separate itself from the other British Invasion works of the time. Pretty much 95% of their work from their breakthrough up to the time they did 'Ticket to Ride' and 'I Feel Fine' is on par with everyone else.

I'm not sure many bands had the sheer energy and freshness of some of that earlier work by The Beatles. And I still don't get why influence is a measure of quality. Something might be influential just because it sounds different to other stuff at the time or because of the marketing and image of someone.

And I don't think there is any reason for this thread to get shut down.

DarkNewDayFan · 01-23-2012, 02:19 PM

Overrated - U2

Underrated - Dark New Day

Franco Pepe Kalle · 01-23-2012, 06:11 PM

Bob Marley was never a rock artist. He was a artist who had a active heart about uniting a divided world. He was basically responsible for uniting the Jamacia country. I mean he is the man who united two different political parties. Many musicians never had a chance to unite two different people or let alone parties.

I enjoy Bob Marley's music so much. I will always miss him. R.I.P. Bob Marley.

**Goofle** · 01-23-2012, 06:27 PM

Overrated: Bob Marley

Franco Pepe Kalle · 01-23-2012, 06:31 PM

to me, it makes no difference. Bob Marley is someone who was a great activist and he is someone who lives a great legacy. Bob Marley's music will never die.

TheNiceGuy · 01-24-2012, 03:16 AM

Overrated: Eh, Nirvana I guess but I still like them. Michael Jackson however is massively overrated and I hate him with all my quality music loving heart

Underrated: He's already got quite a bit of praise, but I think Elvis Costello deserves some more. The best lyricist in the past 30 or so year imo.

DogmaticRock · 01-24-2012, 08:20 AM

Long List Of Overrated Artists
Justin Bieber
Beyonce
Lil Wayne
Lady Gaga
Rianha
Kesha
Chris Brown
Adele
Eminem
Jay-Z
Maroon 5

The list could go on and on and on and on.....

Howard the Duck · 01-24-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

Bob Marley was never a rock artist. He was a artist who had a active heart about uniting a divided world. He was basically responsible for uniting the Jamacia country. I mean he is the man who united two different political parties. Many musicians never had a chance to unite two different people or let alone parties.

I enjoy Bob Marley's music so much. I will always miss him. R.I.P. Bob Marley.

well, Hitler united Germany

and i heard he was very good at the tin can whistle

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TheNiceGuy Living under the bridge Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 317	Overrated: Eh, Nirvana I guess but I still like them. Michael Jackson however is massively overrated and I hate him with all my quality music loving heart Underrated: He's already got quite a bit of praise, but I think Elvis Costello deserves some more. The best lyricist in the past 30 or so year imo. __________________ My Music Review Blog-It's Only Rock 'n' Roll There is no Dark Side of the Moon really, matter of fact it's all dark...

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DarkNewDayFan Groupie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4	Overrated - U2 Underrated - Dark New Day

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DogmaticRock Groupie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: In my studio Posts: 20	Long List Of Overrated Artists Justin Bieber Beyonce Lil Wayne Lady Gaga Rianha Kesha Chris Brown Adele Eminem Jay-Z Maroon 5 The list could go on and on and on and on.....