Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

starrynight · 01-19-2012, 02:48 AM

Influence is overrated, I listen to music on whether I think it is good or not and not on whether people think it is influential (that's for music historians not listeners). On actual musical achievement Elvis has been overrated, but fewer people probably hype his music now anyway.

Howard the Duck · 01-19-2012, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic

Elvis does deserve some credit. While I agree his music is nothing special, his image and what he represented shaped rock and roll. So many of the big artists from the early 60's through the late 60's usually mention seeing Elvis on the TV and wanting to be like him as a reason they wanted to be rock stars.

The way I see it, if you look at the music the people who are underrated are the likes of Screaming Jay Hawkins and Link Wray. Guys who were among the first to do them and are still prevalent in rock to this day. Elvis' influence on music is all but evaporated and I don't see his stage persona living on. But when we see crazy live shows, costume and theatrics... It can be traced straight back to Screaming Jay Hawkins, aka the original shock rocker. Rock and roll was contraversial enough in the 50's without painting your face and rising from a coffin as a African bushman. And with Link Wray, something as simple as distortion and power chords became his trademark and are used in 99.6876% of rock music today. In fact, 'Rumble' is one of the most important recordings ever just for the sheer balls it had in 1958. And 'Rumble' has had almost as many endorsements as Elvis as inspiration for those young, inspiring rockers back in the day.

The things Screaming Jay Hawkins and Link Wray did are not appreciated by enough people today simply because they lack the name recognition. Elvis made his mark on the culture. Significant, yes. But when it comes down to tangible musical influence... He's worthy of the 'overrated' title.

Screaming Jay Hawkins didn't have much musical substance, if you want my 2cents - he was the first "Shock Rocker", though, and he deserves credit for that - i don't think there'd be Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson without him

Link Wray practically invented punk and metal

Euronomus · 01-19-2012, 05:48 AM

The Rolling Stones, they wrote like 2 good songs 45 years ago and yet they're regarded as this revered group of "rock gods" why is just beyond me.

starrynight · 01-19-2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Euronomus

The Rolling Stones, they wrote like 2 good songs 45 years ago and yet they're regarded as this revered group of "rock gods" why is just beyond me.

They wrote more than 2 good songs I expect, but they are overrated for sure. Again, it's because of the image and social impact or influence people saw them as having. They rode on the wave of the British invasion, so other groups like The Beatles raised their profile. Icon isn't the same as musical quality, as I said before.

Howard the Duck · 01-19-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Euronomus

The Rolling Stones, they wrote like 2 good songs 45 years ago and yet they're regarded as this revered group of "rock gods" why is just beyond me.

they have at least four awesome albums and some good ones

all their singles are ace, except maybe "Gimme Shelter"

TockTockTock · 01-19-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

hehehe, so what. Is it a problem. Plus Elvis himself loved black music. DUH. Why do you think he did some blues and soul music because he loved that. Elvis is someone who is a unique creature. Elvis is someone who did get a chance of a long life but his legacy will live on. No one can ever replace Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, and Bob Marley.

That's good.... the last thing we need is another Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley...

**Goofle** · 01-19-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

That's good.... the last thing we need is another Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley...

/thread

Howard the Duck · 01-19-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

Oh so great artists have to be songwriters. Yeah they are artists that are songwriters but some make below par music. Ask Lady Gaga as a example.

nothing Gene Vincent or Eddie Cochran did are below par

i would say most of their songs are better than the King who died on his throne (the toilet bowl) put out

that's because the "King" had better looks and a better marketing agent

so Elvis Scmelvis

only thing he's good for spawning Japanese impersonators, whio are funny and sometimes even better than the "King"

14232949 · 01-19-2012, 11:53 AM

Guys aren't you aware Franco is either a pretty impressive troll or a below par human being.
He isn't worth your time.

To throw another onto the pile, re-listened to In Utero again today and it is average at best.
The album has a few highlights but nothing exceptional and nothing revolutionary and as for 'Kirk Cobain' as Franco dubbed him earlier, he wasn't the philosophical mind that many portray him to be, his lyrics aren't cryptic or rhetoric, they're just for the most part, nonsensical.

Franco Pepe Kalle · 01-19-2012, 04:12 PM

Wow, everyone is ganging up against me. I am sorry if I am breaking Lady Gaga fans heart. I really am. No surprise. I guess I am the few who thinks Gaga is overrated. Who cares. I am glad I am different from everyone else. I think this should be called Lady Gaga Banter. That would be a better title.

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